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Title: screen recording software
Post by: Vaquero on March 13, 2013, 05:31:18 pm
Does anyone know a good, free recording software to take videos while using NVil? I tried CamStudio now for a while, but it slows down my system to a point where NVil isn't responsive anymore. The quality also isn't that good (lines appear dotted, banding etc., but might have to do with the codec).
I don't have any money to spend on such software.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: Vaquero on March 13, 2013, 05:34:46 pm
What I am asking for is, if anyone has experience with other software. I know how to search for it in the internet.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: Vaquero on March 13, 2013, 05:41:16 pm
I may test several myself to see which fits these special needs. Just found out, that since windows 7 there's a built in recording software: PSR.exe forget about that.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: steve on March 13, 2013, 05:57:42 pm
I have used Camstudio many times, have not seen an issue. Have just checked again and all OK.

How long are you recording for, and what screen resolution?

For capture quality, are you using the "CamStudio Lossless Codec v1.5", which I find works great on my setup. The download of the codec is on the main camstudio web-page (just under the application download)
http://camstudio.org/

Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: Vaquero on March 13, 2013, 06:24:16 pm
I tried the lossless codec and it is much better now! Thanks a lot. Although the playback is still lagging when the camera was rotated.
I record at full HD, the longest I recorded was about 15 minutes. But for now I just want to record rather short clips (< 1 min) in high quality to show off various functions and workflow inside NVil, in order to mash it up to a trailer afterwards.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: steve on March 13, 2013, 06:45:31 pm
Try changing the folder for the temp capture file:- Camstudio-> "Options-> Program Options-> Directory for Recording" -> Use user specified directory". I place mine on a second internal HD.

You can also increase the frame rate capture, I use 25 milliseconds (you can change it:- Options-> Video options" and use the scroll bar at the bottom of that window to adjust the "Capture Frames every" value)
I use that setting, and I am set-up on an older 1st gen quad core (q6600) and it works fine.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: molebox on March 14, 2013, 06:39:29 am
I tries a few programs:

1. Wink - debugmode*com
pros: free, it has editor, support notes/text/arrow/etc
cons: last version was in 2007 yo, recorded only in exe,swf =(

2. UVScreenCamera - uvsoftium*com
pros: it has free version, editor, support notes/text/arrow/etc, show mouse's clicks and keyboard keys pressing. It has cute pencil to underline, but only in editor.
cons: recorded only in exe, uvf(spec.format,has free player for it)
Commercial has realtime pencil(Drawing on the screen during recording.), support flv, swf,gif,avi  - 50$ =(

3. CamStudio
pros: free, recorded in avi. There are a converter to swf, autopan - i do not tested.
cons: not has editor, crash on a few point the menu.

AVI - big size,normal quality
SWF - better quality than avi , small size
UVF - quality is the same as the swf, smallest size

i also tries flashback express - support avi, notes, but! When i ask support "why i cannot to remove notes or edit it" then they wrote me: free version doesnot support notes - it is bug =) They will remove support the notes for free version.
without support removing/editing notes -  using notes -> solid Hemorrhoids  ;D
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: rubberDuck on March 16, 2013, 03:37:10 am
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Mirillis Action! here.
This is the best HD screen capture software I'm aware of, capable of recording full HD with sound @60 fps. It utilizes a proprietary multi-core FICV codec. All this for a mere 24.95 or $29.95.
It's only drawback being the Windows Aero that is required for desktop HD recording and I bet some of you guys, like me, like to use custom themes that are non-Aero, but it won't work with Mirillis. You will have to switch back to Aero ones.

As a side note: if your postproduction program is unable to open files encoded with FICV, you can use VirtualDub x64 and x265vfw to convert it to lossless x264 file and open it afterwards. Or you can simply explode them in VirtualDub into image files and save audio track separately.

To zoom in and out and to paint over your screen in real time, you might want to use ZoomIt: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897434.aspx

Also, two things worth nothing when using Action!:
1. If your monitor's native resolution is 16:10, don't use the integrated YouTube export. Open it up in VirtualDub, save as x264 lossless and either convert it again to lossy x264 to decrease its size or upload it directly to YouTube. The integrated YouTube export allows only for exporting of 16:9 or other (apart of 16:10) aspect ratios, so you want to avoid it if you don't want to loose the crispiness of the video. If you upload a 16:10 video to YouTube (like 1920x1200 for example) you can play it using the "Original" resolution option.
2. Again, if your monitor's native resolution is 16:10 and you want to record a video of a different aspect ratio, like 1080p or 720p, I highly recommend the small application called "sizer" (http://www.brianapps.net/sizer/). It allows for a quick change of window resolution to fit the desired one. It's available as a portable application too, if you don't want undesired entries in your OS registry.

My last experience (before Action!) was with Debut Video Capture that is now on sale (the price dropped temporarily from $60 to $39.95 for a pro version), but I've never met an program that would cause so many trouble like Debut did to my computer. I've experienced some BSODs (just google Debut BSOD). The lossless HuffYUV codec works well though in lower resolutions (720p). Also, it's capable of using external codecs like lossless Lagarith, which is good. But Action! is faster anyway, so why pay more?
Also, it binds itself with some file extensions you don't want it to be bound with.

Examples of Mirillis Action! recordings:
http://youtu.be/g0BC_kwEeCk - obsolete video (after the release of 3D Coat V4 Beta13a which implements export depth along Y) recorded in 1920x1200@20fps (with almost no CPU usage from Action! on my 3930K/32GB and GTX660/3GB VRAM), so you'll get the crispiest image if your monitor's native resolution is 1920x1200 or more and if you set the video resolution to Original. No audio in this video though.
http://youtu.be/Fux0hxk1PDM - very CPU resource demanding war-game recorded in 1920x1200@30fps. Yup, realistic war simulators are one of my hidden hobbies. ::)

And Camtasia is like what? $282? What a ridiculous price.

Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: molebox on March 16, 2013, 08:03:55 am
Hi, rubberDuck

You wiil try UVScreenCamera or Wink (i don't know what with support Win7). I think, what for record the desktop Mirillis not better software. I read a features of the Mirillis - it is software is more suitable for recording games.

It is don't have editor(i knew about video editor :) ), notes, popup etc.
But if to record only video+voice then maybe, maybe..

p.s. Thanks for ZoomIt, never heard of her. I always using Autoruns, FileMon,RegMon and other a great applcations from ex-sysinternals.

Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: steve on March 16, 2013, 01:04:42 pm
I always using Autoruns, FileMon,RegMon and other a great applcations from ex-sysinternals.

They made Filemon + Regmon into "Process Monitor"

"Process Monitor" + "Process Explorer" = Excellent



Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: molebox on March 16, 2013, 01:42:45 pm
They made Filemon + Regmon into "Process Monitor"
Yes, but for quickly monitoring I like to use Filemon + Regmon =)
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: rubberDuck on March 17, 2013, 02:12:47 am
You wiil try UVScreenCamera or Wink (i don't know what with support Win7). I think, what for record the desktop Mirillis not better software. I read a features of the Mirillis - it is software is more suitable for recording games.
Not really. It's actually perfect for recording desktop. You can easily knock out a 60 fps film at full HD resolution without slowdowns even while working on a heavy scene at the same time. I recorded the first of the linked videos at 20 fps only because I wanted to get a relatively small file as a result that would be fast to upload to YouTube and rapidly converted by it.

It is don't have editor(i knew about video editor :) ), notes, popup etc.
But if to record only video+voice then maybe, maybe..
This is true, yes. Mirillis doesn't have any annotations editor, so you'd have to import your video into your favourite 3rd party compositing/video editing program or, if you're uploading to YouTube, make them there.

p.s. Thanks for ZoomIt, never heard of her. I always using Autoruns, FileMon,RegMon and other a great applcations from ex-sysinternals.
I agree, I find programs made by Sysinternals one of the best system utilities one can get for Windows.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: johnnybevo on March 17, 2013, 04:50:11 pm
I have been using Camtasia 3 for a long time never saw any reason to upgrade.
I got version 3 when it was being given away for free. You may be able to find it out there somewhere I just dont know where.
 I have never had any issues with it.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: molebox on March 17, 2013, 08:42:13 pm
Hi, johnnybevo

I found the link to Camtasia 3 but a Registration link dont work ..
darrenstraight*com/blog/2007/11/23/download-camtasia-studio-313-for-free

I also found the key. 8) Wondering if it would be considered piracy?
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: johnnybevo on March 18, 2013, 06:40:14 pm
Hi, johnnybevo

I found the link to Camtasia 3 but a Registration link dont work ..
darrenstraight*com/blog/2007/11/23/download-camtasia-studio-313-for-free

I also found the key. 8) Wondering if it would be considered piracy?

I don't know if it would or not that is the version they gave away for free, but it was several years ago.
When they were giving it away, i did email them to make sure that it was really free and the reply was yes. You could always email them and ask, but if it is being given away on someones blog, i think it would be questionable. The only way to know is to contact techsmith.
 This is only my opinion but I would think that they could careless about version 3 anymore, but if someone were giving away whatever the current or a more recent version away, then I would stay away from that.
 This is only my opinion and if you decide to use it, I would contact techsmith for sure and scan and scan again for any cooties that might be lurnking in the .exe
I am in no way saying use unless you find out for sure it is ok.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: molebox on March 18, 2013, 07:47:07 pm
johnnybevo, i dont understand this phrase:
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scan and scan again for any cooties that might be lurnking in the .exe

it in a figurative sense? The link to the setup is on the official site.

p.s. I will try to write to TechSmith.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: johnnybevo on March 19, 2013, 01:20:22 am
scan and scan again for any cooties that might be lurking in the .exe

By this i mean you should scan this application with your antivirus.
Anything I download I always check for virus, with my antivirus software and then I scan with two other malware programs(even if it seems legitimate ). Every thing gets scanned at least 3 times.
 Maybe I am paranoid but it is best to always be safe.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: molebox on March 19, 2013, 01:49:52 am
I don't have antivirus ~5 years. Once every two months, I check my computer by free Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool (one of the best).

My a few rules:
1. I use great firewall+ HIPS - Comodo.

2. My favorite browser - Opera with disabled Java plugin, Flash (on demand).

3. HandyCache - it is using as anti-banner

4. Adobe Reader, I replaced by the SumatraPDF


HIPS - monitor a programs and asks permission for certain actions.

p.s. It is true there must have experience to work on the computer without antivirus.

sorry for offtop.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: johnnybevo on March 19, 2013, 11:53:18 pm
I don't have antivirus ~5 years. Once every two months, I check my computer by free Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool (one of the best).

My a few rules:
1. I use great firewall+ HIPS - Comodo.

2. My favorite browser - Opera with disabled Java plugin, Flash (on demand).

3. HandyCache - it is using as anti-banner

4. Adobe Reader, I replaced by the SumatraPDF


HIPS - monitor a programs and asks permission for certain actions.

p.s. It is true there must have experience to work on the computer without antivirus.

sorry for offtop.

That is very brave.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: molebox on March 20, 2013, 12:15:03 am
That is very brave.

I just do not insert in PC foreign usb-flash. Opera has a little vulnerable as due to the low popularity of the little investigating hackers.

Remove from browser a next plugins: Adobe Reader, Java (not javascript!)  --> more security
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: steve on March 21, 2013, 06:43:04 pm
I have been looking at OBS (Open Broadcast Software). It is an open source project.

It is a bit heavy on the CPU on my setup, but it is encoding directly to MP4 @30 fps on HD1080.

I have not seen it cause issue with NVIL and the capture quality is quite good from testing.

http://obsproject.com/index
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: 3dwizzard on March 23, 2013, 12:33:30 am
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Does anyone know a good, free recording software to take videos while using NVil? I tried CamStudio now for a while, but it slows down my system to a point where NVil isn't responsive anymore. The quality also isn't that good (lines appear dotted, banding etc., but might have to do with the codec).
I don't have any money to spend on such software.

You might want to try the x264 codec.

It's open source.

http://x264vfw.sourceforge.net/ (http://x264vfw.sourceforge.net/)     
   or         
http://www.videolan.org/developers/x264.html (http://www.videolan.org/developers/x264.html)

It's probably the hottest codec out there right now. In 2010, Warner Brothers used x264 codec for encodeing Blu-rays.

Now that this codec is in CamStudio, I'm impressed.

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I tried the lossless codec and it is much better now! Thanks a lot. Although the playback is still lagging when the camera was rotated.
I record at full HD, the longest I recorded was about 15 minutes. But for now I just want to record rather short clips (< 1 min) in high quality to show off various functions and workflow inside NVil, in order to mash it up to a trailer afterwards.

I've been trying to do the same thing for the last couple months.
 Short and sweet demonstrations.They make a small file size.
Plus, I don't record audio, so the file size is even smaller.

Myself, I find accents throw me off. I concentrate on more of what the speaker is trying to say.
And that throws me off.
I'm using the layouts, for more of an indication type video.

Here is an example: http://www.divshare.com/download/23907369-4f1     

I haven't sent any of this out for feedback yet. So I'm anticipating some problems.

One of the problems that I anticipate is; since it was made in high definition (1280 x 720). It should be viewed in high definition.
So it retains its clarity.
If somebody wants to view a high definition video. And they're display properties are set to standard definition. Then, it's going to be blurry.
Also they need to be at full screen, and not maximized. If they're display settings are 1280 x 720 and, they are viewing in a maximized window.
The boarder of the players interface, is making it shy of that resolution. Therefore it is being viewed in standard definition, and it will be blurry.

Another problem I'm not sure about is; because the file size was so small, I decided to distribute it as a zip.
I don't know if they're going to need the codec loaded on their computer or not.
I didn't think about that at the time.
I've might have went another way.

Hope that helps.

PS. Feedback welcome.


       
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: steve on March 23, 2013, 02:36:34 am
HI 3dwizzard,

You might want to try the x264 codec.
For real-time capture, it can take a lot of CPU power. But yes, great codec for quality/file size

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Myself, I find accents throw me off. I concentrate on more of what the speaker is trying to say.
And that throws me off.     
I am currently trying to create some videos, to try and help users. I know I am not going to voice over them myself, as who wants to hear an old fart with a strange English accent lol.
I have been looking at some computer generated voices (Text to speech), which are quite good (they have come a long was since Microsoft Sam). But still, I have to think about non-English users. So I may revert back to adding simple call-outs/notations.

Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: rubberDuck on March 23, 2013, 03:49:02 am
HI 3dwizzard,

You might want to try the x264 codec.
For real-time capture, it can take a lot of CPU power. But yes, great codec for quality/file size

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Myself, I find accents throw me off. I concentrate on more of what the speaker is trying to say.
And that throws me off.     
I am currently trying to create some videos, to try and help users. I know I am not going to voice over them myself, as who wants to hear an old fart with a strange English accent lol.
I have been looking at some computer generated voices (Text to speech), which are quite good (they have come a long was since Microsoft Sam). But still, I have to think about non-English users. So I may revert back to adding simple call-outs/notations.
Yup, I've mentioned this codec before. Best one out there, but like Steve said - not suitable for real time recording. Lagarith, HuffYUV, FICV, Lecturnity seem to do a better job here. No frame losses and low CPU load are their advantage. Of course nothing stops anyone from converting material recorded by those codecs to x264 and I think it's even highly recommended. The crunching abilities of x264 are unbelievable!

Steve, no no please - no voice synthesisers. They're horrifying and repulsing, no matter how good they are (Ivona). Not to mention they immediately make the video feel like it was made by a kid. Just go with your voice please. English English, being the proper English is a joy to hear, especially for a foreigner like me. :)
And to fight a stage fright, I always keep saying to my friends: "relax your bacon, take a deep breath and all will be well". :D

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as who wants to hear an old fart with a strange English accent lol.
I think you might be surprised. ;)
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: molebox on March 23, 2013, 06:30:02 am

I am currently trying to create some videos, to try and help users. I know I am not going to voice over them myself, as who wants to hear an old fart with a strange English accent lol.
LOL (http://i.imgur.com/yC7KqYk.gif)

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But still, I have to think about non-English users. So I may revert back to adding simple call-outs/notations.

for example, i fully don't  understand the english at the hearing. I see a few variants:
1. Voice + don't to use hotkeys
2. Voice + to use a program which shows pressed keys (or to hold pressed keys, because NVil also show it)
3. Voice + to add callouts/notes with pressed keys
voice - to understanded English at the hearing.


p.s. one well-known MSU Video Group tested 15 lossless codecs 2007 year.
http://www.compression.ru/video/codec_comparison/pdf/msu_lossless_codecs_comparison_2007_eng.pdf

summary:
1. In Video Capture and Video Editing Area the overall clear winner is Lagarith.
2. In Maximum Compression area the overall winner is YULS.
3. The most balanced and flexible codec is FFV1: relatively good
speed and high compression for various presets.
--------------------------------
Seventh MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 Video Codecs Comparison
in 2006-2012 year the leader was x264 as wrote 3dwizzard. But speed don't tested, only the quality =(

about speed a GPU codecs and x264 -
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: 3dwizzard on March 23, 2013, 08:10:52 pm
Hi steve,

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For real-time capture, it can take a lot of CPU power. But yes, great codec for quality/file size

I didn't know it was so CPU intensive. I have a Intel i7 processor. I don't see any bottlenecks or latency problems.
Also, I tried to keep it real short. I think the longest video I've captured with x264, was somewhere around 11 minutes.
I deleted that one because, I thought it was too long.

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I am currently trying to create some videos, to try and help users. I know I am not going to voice over them myself, as who wants to hear an old fart with a strange English accent lol..

Those are some videos I'd like to see. I'd really like to see your workflow. Your attention to detail is so meticulous.
Just looking at the structure of your models, you can really see how organized they are.

As far as your English accent, Yeah, to me it would be strange. But, if I'm not mistaking. Proper English is the most accepted language globally.
Or is that Spanish? I'm not really sure about that. One of them is first and, one of them is second.

Accent do throw me off. But on the same hand, a lot of people would be thrown off by my accent.
Not to mention my speech impediment. That would be like listening to Donald Duck give a lecture on the Big Bang theory. lol

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I have been looking at some computer generated voices (Text to speech), which are quite good (they have come a long was since Microsoft Sam). But still, I have to think about non-English users. So I may revert back to adding simple call-outs/notations.

MP3 message Reply.zip http://www.divshare.com/download/23911006-40f (http://www.divshare.com/download/23911006-40f)
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: 3dwizzard on March 23, 2013, 08:21:43 pm
The divshare site is real slow these days.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: Passerby on March 24, 2013, 02:13:14 am
really makes most sense to just capture raw lossless, since it dosnt hit hte cpu that hard, than re-encode later.

only problem this approach can introduce is your hard drives not being able to keep up, which is why wehn you do this use the hard drive that your OS isn't on.

i just use camtasia studio, and have had no problems and i have recored things where i got NVIL, maya, photoshop and udk going at once.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: 3dwizzard on March 24, 2013, 05:49:34 pm
Hi Passerby,

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really makes most sense to just capture raw lossless, since it dosnt hit hte cpu that hard, than re-encode later.

I used to do that. At the end, the results are nice. But when you start working with raw material like AVI uncompressed,
it can be a nightmare editing. It's been a long time, but if I recall right. 44 seconds of AVI uncompressed is over a gigabyte.
If you want to do editing like that, you're going to need a powerhouse:

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/davtechtable/extreme-hardware-performance-hardware-featuring-hp-and-nvidia/ (http://tv.adobe.com/watch/davtechtable/extreme-hardware-performance-hardware-featuring-hp-and-nvidia/)

A system like this would easily cost $15-$25,000
Granted, this kind of system is for working on a production type movie. But when you're working with raw footage,
you need a powerhouse to deal with large file sizes.

When I was editing raw footage. The computer would seem like it was frozen. I would have to look in task manager,
under the performance tab. Just to see if it was still running. Then I would walk away, and let the computer do its thing.

That was on a single core processor back in the early 2000. I haven't done any editing like that in a long time.
I told a video editing group I was doing that, and they laughed at me. Everybody said, I was crazy for working with files that big.
I have to admit though, the end result was nice.

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i just use camtasia studio, and have had no problems and i have recored things where i got NVIL, maya, photoshop and udk going at once.

From what I understand, camtasia studio is the best out there. I guess that's why the Fortune 500 companies use it.
But if I'm not mistaking, it retails for $300 and up. I'll figure something else out.

Maybe this Lagarith codec, will show some good results.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: Vaquero on March 25, 2013, 02:15:23 pm
Thanks for all the replies! I am not home for a few weeks, but when I get back, I will try some of your suggestions. For later editing of the footage I want to try Lightworks (www.lwks.com (http://www.lwks.com). I was looking for a free alternative to Adobe's After Effects, but could only come up with Wax (http://www.debugmode.com/wax/), but the UI looks terribly outdated, so I haven't tried it yet. I did quickly play around with Autodesks Composite 2013, but it wasn't pleasant to work with. I couldn't figure out the simplest things, like masking, and there are almost no tutorials. In case of necessity I have to use some 3d package and render things out, but it would be less comfortable than having a software dedicated for tasks like making titles and intros.

I am no english native speaker, so I refrain from using my voice. And I totally fail at recording something and speaking at the same time! :D But if I watch tutorials I find it a lot easier to hear what someone is saying while looking at what he or she does, rather than having to part my visual attention between a textbox and what is going on on the screen. You can get a lot more information across with audio than with on screen text. But some short, supporting notes are always welcome.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: molebox on March 25, 2013, 03:15:11 pm
but could only come up with Wax (http://www.debugmode.com/wax/), but the UI looks terribly outdated, so I haven't tried it yet.

The author Wax also created Wink. With help the Wink i recorded a few short video (bug-report/questions). Very good the program! But i dont try for recording long-time video.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: johnnybevo on March 26, 2013, 11:44:24 pm
Yes, Steve I want to hear your voice.
We have been posting back and forth a while now, here not so long, but we spent some time posting about Hexagon a while.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: steve on March 27, 2013, 12:05:35 am
Yes, Steve I want to hear your voice.
Highly unlikely.

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We have been posting back and forth a while now, here not so long, but we spent some time posting about Hexagon a while.
I think about 6 years with Hexagon, still no bug fixes LOL
At last I found a replacement.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: johnnybevo on March 27, 2013, 12:13:35 am
Yes, Steve I want to hear your voice.
Highly unlikely.

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We have been posting back and forth a while now, here not so long, but we spent some time posting about Hexagon a while.
I think about 6 years with Hexagon, still no bug fixes LOL
At last I found a replacement.

Only more bugs for Hexagon LOL
6 years, Has it been that long?
No doubt NVIL is a great replacement.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: steve on March 27, 2013, 01:16:19 am
6 years, Has it been that long?
Maybe a bit longer?

Hexagon was really the first poly modeler I fully learned. I had always used nurbs(solidworks/Rhino etc) up until then. It was mainly due to Hexagon having all the curves/surface tools that I was used to.
I did then try wings3d, which I did take time to learn and used for quite a while until someone (I think at DAZ forums) mentioned voidworld(NVIL).

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No doubt NVIL is a great replacement.
When I first looked at NVIL, I though probably not, but time spent with it and finding all the tools/functions, well, here I am. :)
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: johnnybevo on March 27, 2013, 01:26:09 am
I feel very comfortable in this forum and with the future of this software.
As far software goes I dont know if there is anything I have not tried.
Blender, Wings, Max, Maya, Modo, Hexagon, lightwave.
I have XSI, but only use it for nurbs and dont use nurbs that often because their is not that much instruction for nurbs.
Anyway I think I will stay with NVIl and mess around with Blender from time to time. I am always exploring new software, NVIL will be my primary for modeling.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: steve on March 27, 2013, 02:02:44 am
Anyway I think I will stay with NVIl and mess around with Blender from time to time.

I am always using Blender. It is just I have never taken the time to learn its modeling capabilities. I use cycles and the physics in Blender quite a lot.(well, more like playing around a lot).

By the way, just to get back on topic, LOL.
I decided to purchase Mirillis Action for desktop/screen recording. Many thanks to rubberDuck for posting the link/info about the application.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: Passerby on March 27, 2013, 09:53:37 am
I just use different packages for different parts of my workflow. tend to use Nvil for building the high poly, and low poly or base meshes for zbrush. than I move it all to Maya, for my uv's, and setting up my cage. Than do my bakes in xnormal. Also will use Maya for my scene management and final export to the game engine or really any task I can easily automate like generating convex hulls for collision meshes, or creating lods, as well as doing all my riging and animation there. (the python support in Maya makes things like that ultra fast and easy)

And for some pieces for environment work I will use Maya over Nvil for modeling if I am needing to do a lot of lofting with curves, or am makeing heavy use of deformers. But for most modelling both low poly and subd I do prefer Nvil ans work faster with it.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: johnnybevo on March 27, 2013, 04:43:45 pm
Anyway I think I will stay with NVIl and mess around with Blender from time to time.

I am always using Blender. It is just I have never taken the time to learn its modeling capabilities. I use cycles and the physics in Blender quite a lot.(well, more like playing around a lot).

By the way, just to get back on topic, LOL.
I decided to purchase Mirillis Action for desktop/screen recording. Many thanks to rubberDuck for posting the link/info about the application.

Steve let me know how  Mirillis Action works out. How good the video quality is and file size. ease of use.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: molebox on March 27, 2013, 09:17:40 pm
I  happen found HyperCam. I remember it is was very a popular program. Now, HyperCam is free. Only show a banners, but you can to disallow it by firewall.

a straight link: hyperionics.com/downloads/hc2pvt/HC2SetupPvt.exe
Don't install toolbar, uncheck it.

p.s. Why nobody dont want to try ActivePresenter? I wrote about the program.
http://voidworld.cmcproductions.co.uk/index.php/topic,1114.15.html
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: steve on March 28, 2013, 04:45:47 am
Hi johnnybevo,

Steve let me know how  Mirillis Action works out. How good the video quality is and file size. ease of use.

The quality is great. Very easy to use. The output filesize depends on capture resolution FPS etc and what codec used (it either uses FICV or MP4). If you use FICV, you can then convert it (in Mirillis) to output to MP4 using different profiles/quality.
What I really like, is it uses no CPU on my setup during HD1080 screen real time(30 fps) capture. It uses Cuda(GPU).  If you have one of the later CPU, it will use quick sync.
I have not checked to see what resources it is using of the GPU, I have felt no need, as it does not interfere with applications.
You should have a look at the 30 day trial version. It is fully functional, it just places a "Captured by..." at the top of the screen.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: johnnybevo on March 28, 2013, 11:26:11 pm
Hi johnnybevo,

Steve let me know how  Mirillis Action works out. How good the video quality is and file size. ease of use.

The quality is great. Very easy to use. The output filesize depends on capture resolution FPS etc and what codec used (it either uses FICV or MP4). If you use FICV, you can then convert it (in Mirillis) to output to MP4 using different profiles/quality.
What I really like, is it uses no CPU on my setup during HD1080 screen real time(30 fps) capture. It uses Cuda(GPU).  If you have one of the later CPU, it will use quick sync.
I have not checked to see what resources it is using of the GPU, I have felt no need, as it does not interfere with applications.
You should have a look at the 30 day trial version. It is fully functional, it just places a "Captured by..." at the top of the screen.

I have the website bookmarked. I will take a look and maybe take it for test drive next week.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: staigerman on March 11, 2014, 11:09:24 am
I use Microsoft's Expression Encoder, which has been free for a while.

http://www.microsoft.com/expression

If you want to see samples of screen captures for tutorials, see my youtube channel on PD Howler at http://www.youtube.com/pdhowler

I capture with Expression Encoder, then encode it to WMV at 6000 Mbps (xbos 720p option amongst Device formats), then assemble that WMV into PowerDirector from Cyberlink to add stuff. Great workflow. Expression Encoder also has some editing capabilities, like trimming or cutting parts of the clip, adding other clips in sequence etc... I think too, but I never had a need to really explore.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: Vaquero on March 31, 2014, 07:58:34 pm
I tried the Expression Encoder, but I was not too happy about it. You can't select a codec and have to re-render the output in another app. But it didn't effect performance. Ok, I set the recording to 5 FPS, because I wanted to make a time lapse.

After I converted the video to 1080p WMV, it did play back in normal speed, not faster as I would have expecteed. I tried correcting this using lightworks, which again requires re-rendering and downsample to 720p in the free version. But lightworks couldn't handle the file size on my system and got real slow. Maybe I'd overdone it by recording 5 hours footage, but file size was around 2GB.

I will try Hypercam which molebox suggested. I had seen that you can independently set the recording speed and the playback speed, as well choose a codec.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: Vaquero on April 01, 2014, 01:32:41 am
With the uncrompessed lossless format (and Hypercam) the file size explodes within seconds of recording. So I tried the x264 thingy. The file size is really small, which is good. Does anyone know good settings for the encoder? I'll try to use that one. But I've also seen that there's a H265 successor, but I didn't find binaries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Video_Coding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Video_Coding)).
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: Vaquero on August 13, 2014, 01:55:59 pm
I just quickly wanted to let you know, that for further editing of video footage there seems to be another great application called Davinci Resolve Lite (http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/).
The Lite Version is free and in its version 11 now supports editing. I haven't tried it yet, bacause I have more than enough to do with other stuff nowadays. But from the looks of it, it seems to be capable of things that Lightworks was not (also Lightworks wasn't that pleasant to use when I tried it), like adding titles, compositing.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: rubberDuck on August 13, 2014, 08:24:20 pm
I just quickly wanted to let you know, that for further editing of video footage there seems to be another great application called Davinci Resolve Lite (http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/).
The Lite Version is free and in its version 11 now supports editing. I haven't tried it yet, bacause I have more than enough to do with other stuff nowadays. But from the looks of it, it seems to be capable of things that Lightworks was not (also Lightworks wasn't that pleasant to use when I tried it), like adding titles, compositing.
Thanks for the info Vaquero.
I on the other hand like Lightworks a lot. It's very sleek once you get the hang of it. Too bad they removed image sequence import/export from the free version. What a bummer. :(
In what fields do you think Davinci is better than Lightworks?
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: rubberDuck on March 10, 2015, 07:16:14 pm
Guys at Mirillis made two improvements:
They added a support for Nvidia NVENC, so you can encode stuff even faster than before.
Also, what's more important, they introduced 30bpp desktop recording. This finally eliminates the problem with weird colour shift. :D
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: Vaquero on July 05, 2015, 07:31:54 pm
I have been looking at OBS (Open Broadcast Software). It is an open source project.

It is a bit heavy on the CPU on my setup, but it is encoding directly to MP4 @30 fps on HD1080.

I have not seen it cause issue with NVIL and the capture quality is quite good from testing.

http://obsproject.com/index

I did have a short look on OBS. Don't know if it is a recent development, but it seems to use the GPU in some way. What I like about it is, that you can make it record a specific window or a region of it and it keeps recording this window, even when you switch your focus somewhere else (have another window in front of it). Haven't tried the scenes switch yet, but might also come in handy.
Title: Re: screen recording software
Post by: rubberDuck on July 06, 2015, 07:10:56 pm
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I did have a short look on OBS. Don't know if it is a recent development, but it seems to use the GPU in some way. What I like about it is, that you can make it record a specific window or a region of it and it keeps recording this window, even when you switch your focus somewhere else (have another window in front of it). Haven't tried the scenes switch yet, but might also come in handy.
The newest version of Mirillis Action! utilizes NVENC, and its blazing fast. When recording @1920x1080 desktop video it consumes close to none of CPU and GPU Core resources on my system, maybe 1-2% per each resource. I'm working on a 3930K with GTX660Ti.
And. you can record a custom sized window too.
It's not free, but I bought it 2 years ago and I still receive free updates, so it was a very good purchase.