Move!

http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Dec-24-15.rar
* Edit > Customize > Tools > Modeling Options > Plan/Axis Move Toggle Key.

It doesn't work on Caps Lock key in my PC. Maybe my keyboard or system. But it works on other keys include Shift.

Works great!
And I think last step, we have to make Plan/Axis Move Toggle Key works only during key is pressed, you press it works, you release it stop to work. Exactly Like Stepping Enabled Toggle Key is working now.

It works witch Caps Lock too, looks like something with your system.

Works great!
And I think last step, we have to make Plan/Axis Move Toggle Key works only during key is pressed, you press it works, you release it stop to work. Exactly Like Stepping Enabled Toggle Key is working now.

http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Dec-24-15.rar

1. I just notice that if you run Plan/Axis Move Toggle, it not move according to the start coordinates.
Let me explain, for example you have object at X=0, Y=0, Z=0.
You start to move it and in position X=20 and a Y=5 you run Plan/Axis Move Toggle.
From this moment it will move object only in X axes  where Y=5.
It is snot correct movement it has to be: move object only in X axes where Y=Initial state when you start to move object and it was Y=0.

I created video to show you, if something is not clear let me know I'll create new explanation:
http://take.ms/dXatK

2. I have some additions,
If you check Swap REPEAT LAST STEP with REPLACE SELECTION, Style Selection - Replace selection and Paint Selection - Replace selection must be activated only by using (Ctrl+Shift).
Because now when SL is off you can make that selections without Ctrl+Shift but when SL tool is On you can make it only with Ctrl+Shift.
We have to eliminate it to have only one shortcut for these operations and it has to be - Ctrl+Shift.
I just was confused very much because of it, trying to understand what shortcuts to use for it.

1.http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Dec-24-15.rar

2.Why force to use Ctrl+Shift for Replace selection? What is your current assigning for Ctrl+Shift? If Ctrl+Shift has two different meanings, it may cause confusing. I have two solutions. 1> Release selection hotkey after you have pressed mouse button and do the selection as normal. The program will treat it as Replace selection as there is no selection key being pressed. 2> Rearrange your selection hotkey assigning to something like this, Shift=Replace, Shift+Ctrl=Include, Ctrl=Exclude.

When we introduce REPEAT LAST STEP with REPLACE SELECTION, it starts to conflict with some default selection actions that use drag because drag now reserved for SL tool to activate it. Now it so confused, even I started to confuse when start to work yesterday. We have to unify all that selection behavior to adapt to new circumstance.

Now it looks like this:

Replace Selection:
When SL tool is On - Left Click
When SL tool is Off - Left click

Replace Style selection:
When SL tool is On - Ctrl+Shift+Left mouse Drag
When SL tool is Off - Left Drag

Replace Paint selection:
When SL tool is On - Does not work.
When SL tool is Off - Middle mouse drag

But to unify that shortcuts and make everything clear it has to look like this:

Replace Selection:
When SL tool is On - Left Click
When SL tool is Off - Left click

Replace Style selection:
When SL tool is On - Ctrl+Shift+Left mouse Drag
When SL tool is Off - Ctrl+Shift+Left mouse Drag

Replace Paint selection:
When SL tool is On - Ctrl+Shift+Middle mouse Drag
When SL tool is Off - Ctrl+Shift+Moddle mouse Drag

As what I said in my previous post, I don't want to force people to use hard coded hotkey.

Can you answer my questions about problem 2. What is your opinion on my solutions?

1> Release selection hotkey after you have pressed mouse button and do the selection as normal.

Can you explain it more detail, I'm not sure I understood.

2> Rearrange your selection hotkey assigning to something like this, Shift=Replace, Shift+Ctrl=Include, Ctrl=Exclude.

How it has to work? looks like it is the same hotkeys but with different actions.

Anyway  -
Replace Paint selection:
When SL tool is On - Does not work.
Have to be fixed.

You know yesterday I discovered new paradigm of work. For this you have to enable - Allow tapped to stay live.
Now you can select in all SL tools, so the only thing you have to make is just surf through SL toools and do you work.

For example it looks like this:

1. You fired Move SL tool, select something and move,
2. Than you fire Extrude SL tool select what you want to extrude than extrude it, than you select something else
3. And run Move again than move it,
4. Than you run Inset select something and Inset it
5. Etc..

As you can see no meter where you made selection you just reassign mouse Buttons for different actions but all selection tools stay the same. It works awaysome with buttons and no need to drop any tools, just surf through them.
I tested this workflow it is so simple and smooth. And what is the best thing about it is so simple to understand and explain.

Maybe We are not looking at the same problem so we can't understand each other.
To my understanding, the problem is:

"When streamline tool is on, you can't do Replace selection. Because Replace selection can only be done when there is no selection key is being pressed by default.

When a streamline tool is on, to do selecting, you MUST press any selection key to let the streamline tool know that you are going to do selection so it will allow you to do it. But Once press any selection key, you can't do Replace selection any more if you don't have any hotkey assigned to Replace selection."

If I am wrong please let me know. It is important to make sure we are looking at the same problem.

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Here are the solutions I proposed before

1.http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Dec-24-15.rar

2....I have two solutions. 1> Release selection hotkey after you have pressed mouse button and do the selection as normal. The program will treat it as Replace selection as there is no selection key being pressed. 2> Rearrange your selection hotkey assigning to something like this, Shift=Replace, Shift+Ctrl=Include, Ctrl=Exclude.

I will explain more.

Solution 1> When a streamline tool is on, press any your selection hotkey like Ctrl or Ctrl+Shift. Press the mouse button. The streamline tool knows you are going to do selecting because you have pressed down selection hotkey and it will allow you to do selecting as long as you keep the mouse button pressed. Now you can release selection hotkey or change your selection hotkey, then drag to make your selection. The program will perform Replace/Include/Exclude/Toggle selection according to the hotkey being pressed, if no hot key is pressed it will be Replace. Release mouse button and selection is done.

Solution 2> As you can see Replace selection is assigned to Shift. So if you press Shift you can do Replace selecting while a streamline tool is on.

Hay IStonia,
I'm so tired I am working on this new config day and night for a couple of weeks and some times I do not notice simple things 
I thought all that Include, Exclude and Replace selection was hard coded. But I just notice that we have commands for them so I set Replace selection to Ctrl+Shift and everything starts to work like a charm.

I would like to ask you for one setting: Selections works as if SL tool is ON.
So even if SL tool is off all selection works like it is ON. I need it to make only one way to make selections especially Replace selection, because now if SL tool is Off you can make Style Replace Selection or Paint replace selection without shortcut just with Left drag I do not need it.
Many thanks and sorry if I confused you!!

It will be better to make Option >> Viewport tool is always on.
So if you drop any SL tool View port tool will be enabled or when you start NVil this tool will be ON by default and it will allow to make selection only when SL tool is ON.

So you chose solution 2 instead of 1. Can you explain why?

I would like to ask you for one setting: Selections works as if SL tool is ON.
So even if SL tool is off all selection works like it is ON. I need it to make only one way to make selections especially Replace selection, because now if SL tool is Off you can make Style Replace Selection or Paint replace selection without shortcut just with Left drag I do not need it.
Many thanks and sorry if I confused you!!

For what reason you want this behavior?

It will be better to make Option >> Viewport tool is always on.
So if you drop any SL tool View port tool will be enabled or when you start NVil this tool will be ON by default and it will allow to make selection only when SL tool is ON.

What is viewport tool?


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Btw, It's xmas eve here. So

Merry Christmas!

So you chose solution 2 instead of 1. Can you explain why?

Because it is so simple and intuitive! I set Ctrl + Shift to work as Replace Selection and it works!! So it is enough for me:)

What is viewport tool?

I mean Viewport StreamLine tool 

I just created new explanation about Option >> Viewport StreamLine tool is always on.
This option will keep enabled Viewport StreamLine everytime you drop SL tools or Start NVil.
Now when NVil is starts or if you drop SL tool Viewport SL tool is off and to enable it you have to select something.

So why we need it:

1. I have this nice buttons and want that Move button will be checked/highlighted every time when Viewport SL tool is active. Now this button is not highlited When NVil starts or if you drop any SL Tool.


2. I have Tweak Multy-Selection On. But this feature is off when you start NVil or drop any SL Tool.

3. It will allow to have only one way to make Style/Paint Replace Selection only with Hotkey. Now if SL tool is off you can make it with simple drag.


Merry Christmas IStonia!!
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