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Title: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: utopius on April 08, 2017, 02:28:05 am
Anyone else seeing a crash on startup after installing the Windows Creator update? It's going out to everyone on the 11th, but I pulled it down a bit early and I'm paying the price apparently. I get a "stopped working" error.

I have installed the SlimDX runtime, and have even tried uninstalling/reinstalling it. I've also updated all of my drivers as I saw somewhere on here that it could be related to the audio drivers. I ran it with process monitor, and I do get a bunch of access denied errors related to sound (all related to OpenRegKey), but when running as Administrator I don't see that, but still get the crash.

Any ideas on other things to try?
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 08, 2017, 09:28:41 pm
Try remove and reinstall this

Visual C++ Redistributable 2010
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 08, 2017, 10:53:48 pm
Hello,

Sorry to post on this topic, but I also encounter this problem on NVIL after this update (Windows Creator Update). I also test:

- Compatibility mode
- Admin mode
- Reinstallation of slimdx, vc redistributable and the program itself (under steam)

Nothing to do, it will not start and display the message "stopped working".

Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 02:36:35 am
Did you see the loading image?
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 09:13:18 am
Yes I see the loading image (the anvil) before the message "stopped working".

I do not know if this is related, but I have the same problem with the Rocket 3F program.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 09:34:08 am
Can you check this

Directx9

Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 09:52:54 am
No change, I have the same error, after reinstalling directX 9.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 11:47:01 am
Did you see anything else besides the loading image and the "Stop working" message?
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 12:17:04 pm
No, the message (Stopping working) comes just after the loading image. Nothing else.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 02:18:24 pm
Can you test this debug version?
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10 Debug-01.rar

You should see "123" message box and a form behind it. When you close the message box, the app should exit.

I don't have Windows10 so I have to rely on you to find out what is wrong.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 03:05:02 pm
I just tested your debug version. When I start the program, the loading image is displayed correctly, but there is no change, the message "stop working" is displayed immediately after.

I have no message "123" and no form behind.

However, windows ask me if I want to debug the application it sends me this:

https://tof.cx/images/2017/04/09/7ed889cca3ca2588c9b280d7b1e80f51.jpg

If I open VS2015, it shows me:

An unhandled exception of type 'System.AccessViolationException' occurred in WorkShop.dll

Additional information: Tentative de lecture ou d'écriture de mémoire protégée. Cela indique souvent qu'une autre mémoire est endommagée.



But maybe it has nothing to do with it.

EDIT: A have tested with admin mode and with no admin mode.

Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 03:31:04 pm
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-02.rar

You should see Message "AAA" then "BBB".
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 03:37:19 pm
I see the message AAA, the loading image appears and it crashes.

I do not see the message BBB.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 03:56:24 pm
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-03.rar

I want to know the last message you can see.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 04:05:28 pm
I see :

- AAA
- BBB to GGG with a same error message : https://tof.cx/images/2017/04/09/e2771116250673aae8dd33c2c1788cab.jpg

After GGG, the program crashes.



Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 04:19:34 pm
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-04.rar
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 04:50:42 pm
I see :

- AAA,
- After the image loading, BBB to GGG with : https://tof.cx/images/2017/04/09/7a710e62082bc1f2b731527f4eb09a75.jpg

At end, the program crashes.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 05:09:28 pm
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-05.rar
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 05:20:17 pm
I see :

- AAA5
- The Loading image
- BBB to EEE with a error (same)

And crashes.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 05:31:09 pm
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-06.rar

I think we are very close to the problem code now.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 05:36:39 pm
I see :

- AAA6
- The Loading image
- BBB and CCC with the message error (same)

Program crashes at end.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 05:58:26 pm
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-07.rar
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 06:04:51 pm
I see :

- AAA7
- Image loading
- BBB with the message error : https://tof.cx/images/2017/04/09/d488e30db5ef4edec97c33af528fd631.jpg

And crashes.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 06:21:06 pm
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-08.rar
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 06:24:43 pm
I see :

- AAA8
- Loading image

And crashes :(
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 06:35:17 pm
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-09.rar
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 09, 2017, 06:39:43 pm
I see :

- AAA9
- Image loading
- uuu with a message error

And crashes.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 09, 2017, 06:44:07 pm
 I got to go. Do it later.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 10, 2017, 08:16:05 am
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-10.rar
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 10, 2017, 09:40:07 am
Hello,

I see:

- AAA10
- Loading image
- uuu with a error message https://tof.cx/images/2017/04/10/dba2505c819ae3dae2360d89b03894f6.jpg

Program crashes
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 10, 2017, 10:45:37 am
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-11.rar
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 10, 2017, 11:00:15 am
- AAA11
- Loading image
- uuu with a error message (same)
- crashes
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 10, 2017, 11:16:41 am
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-12.rar
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 10, 2017, 11:27:19 am
- AAA12
- Loading image
- uuu with the error message (same)
- crashes
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 10, 2017, 11:58:43 am
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-14.rar
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 10, 2017, 12:05:44 pm
- AAA14
- Loading image
- uuu with error message (same)
- crashes
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 10, 2017, 12:19:35 pm
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-15.rar
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 10, 2017, 12:28:08 pm

- AAA15
- Loading image
- uuu with a error message
- vvv with a error message
- www with a error message
- Program start (bugged) https://tof.cx/images/2017/04/10/8e10982bfc54121b8801a997fb53c697.jpg
- xxx
- yyy
- zzz

The program refuses to close normally. I have to kill the process.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 10, 2017, 12:46:32 pm
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-16.rar
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 10, 2017, 12:56:24 pm
This version seems to work, I have no message, no error.

And now, what should I do ? Wait for the update for the steam version ? Replace files directly in folder ?

In any case, thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 10, 2017, 01:21:57 pm
You can replace the files under steam for now. It still needs time to make sure no other issues.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 10, 2017, 01:32:41 pm
I will make a steam version shortly.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 10, 2017, 01:34:45 pm
Well it works but comes the problem of the license, it asks me a key, which the steam version does not have. I will wait for the official update on steam and use the debug version.

Thank :)
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 10, 2017, 01:41:44 pm
Here is the Steam version
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-Steam.rar

You can put the files under your Steam folder.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: abecrow on April 10, 2017, 01:54:20 pm
It's work, thank !
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 10, 2017, 08:45:20 pm
Anyone else seeing a crash on startup after installing the Windows Creator update? It's going out to everyone on the 11th, but I pulled it down a bit early and I'm paying the price apparently. I get a "stopped working" error.

I have installed the SlimDX runtime, and have even tried uninstalling/reinstalling it. I've also updated all of my drivers as I saw somewhere on here that it could be related to the audio drivers. I ran it with process monitor, and I do get a bunch of access denied errors related to sound (all related to OpenRegKey), but when running as Administrator I don't see that, but still get the crash.

Any ideas on other things to try?

Does it work for you now?
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: Woolfy on April 10, 2017, 09:33:47 pm
Hi, i changed to win 10 yesterday and now have the same problem with starting NVIL. I see Anvil and then it "stop working" I used NVil-Mar-24-17 version. The problem : i purchased NVIL (2 month ago) via paypal and not over steam. How i can fix the problem? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: utopius on April 11, 2017, 02:36:13 am
Works perfectly for me. I'm using the non-Steam version. When will this be released as an official build?
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: Woolfy on April 11, 2017, 08:07:29 am
Ah i think i downloaded the false version. that was http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-Steam.rar
. I will try this version today http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-W10-Debug-16.rar.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: IStonia on April 11, 2017, 09:13:08 am
Works perfectly for me. I'm using the non-Steam version. When will this be released as an official build?

I will release it as official version in a couple of days if no more error is reported.
Title: Re: Crash on Startup after Installing Windows Creator Update
Post by: Woolfy on April 11, 2017, 10:55:29 pm
Just wanted to say, yes the NVil-W10-Debug-16 version works on win 10 without crash.Thx!