Usertoolbars - Appearance - Font doesn`t work correct

After having a crash while fiddling around with the fonds in the User Toolbars i stumbled across this behaviour. The font for the Window influences the font settings of the groups in the window. The window font, which is what i want to change, stays unchanged though.

Dock panel's font is customizable now. It is not possible to set them individaully.

I don`t understand. Does this mean this menu item is obsolete?

No. The 'View > Windows > Appearance' is a new menu item. It has nothing to do with user tool bars, because it affects all windows.

I see. Thanks.

Well what should it do then? At the moment it just seems to change some fonts of some groups in the currently selected user toolbar. There`s not really a pattern to find.

Hi Tiles,

The "View > Windows > Appearance" changes the font on the top of the tool_bars (all of them). It does appear to work correctly on my setup.

Here I made a quick change to show example:-

So it should change the font of the title of the windows. But it doesn not do that here. It changes the font of a group instead. That`s why i ask

Hm, maybe this has something to do with drag n drop? I´ve dragged the groups from one window to another.

I just made some changes to my user_tool_bars by drag`n`drop, but still not currently seeing the problem.

Have you checked to see if you have the same problem with a new set of preference files?

Thanks for checking

Sure. The shot in the first posting is from a blank preference. And i`ve just checked with the newest version now too. Still the same.

Hm, what is left then? Differences in the windows installation or version jumps into my mind here. I have a german up to date Win 7, 64 Bit Home Premium here.

Tiles, I suspect that you use the wrong menu item. It is from the main app menu, not the context menu in the user tool window. "View > Windows > Apperance".

Erm, i have provided a screenshot to show which menu i mean, which menu i have trouble with. See first post. So if even, isn`t it you that is talking about the wrong one then?

I talk about the right click menu that can be called from the user toolbars. And here the menu item Window/Appearance/Font.

Yes, the right click one is the wrong one. It lets you set the group font "at window level". It's not for the window caption font.

"Wrong" in terms of "i know, this item is deprecated, just ignore, i will remove it" , or "Wrong" in terms of "i talk about something completely different" ? You confuse me

Okay, i will ignore this item. I´ve reported it, that`s all i can do anyways. Thanks

It is a hierarchy thing. It works like this

if group 'caption font'/'font' is set, it will be used.
otherwise if window level font is set, it will be used.
otherwise system default font will be used.

With window level font setting, you don't have to set group font one by one. Only if you want a group font to be different from others, you can set it at group level. Is that understandable?

Thanks for the closer explanation.

Hmm. I start to understand how it is meant, yes. And have to say that it is pretty confusing. A item that is sorted under windows but influences groups doesn`t make much sense. Especially since the groups have their own font settings. And especially because i don`t have influence what group`s fonts gets changed then. It`s pretty random here.

I doubt that anybody will ever use the tool in the way you want them to. For me a case for the scissor