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June 07, 2016, 11:22:24 am
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jun-07-16.rar

No more jump.


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Yep, you got my Idea, it looks very cool!!! But there is some little bugs:

- Now when we drawed base NVil do not create box automatically instead we can move cursor and wire box jumps up or down in oposite sides.

I think it is a good idea to be able to control which direction to put the box. Especially when the box is created on the surface of an object.

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June 07, 2016, 11:53:39 am
Wait a bit, can we make snap points to Square when we draw box? One snap for Base and one for High. I think it will be the best solution to create sqaure box. What do you think, I just got this idea, that old square system just move me to the wrong way.
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June 07, 2016, 11:58:51 am
This is what I mean:
http://take.ms/ChRIf

So we will not need that Square checkbox and this method have some advantages too.
We had to start from this conception, but that sistem with Square check box lead me the wrong way from the start.
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June 08, 2016, 08:09:31 am
This is what I mean:
http://take.ms/ChRIf

So we will not need that Square checkbox and this method have some advantages too.
We had to start from this conception, but that sistem with Square check box lead me the wrong way from the start.

That method has two disadvantages
1. It can't use other snapping to control cube size.
2. It is not convenient to look for those two snapping points.


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Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jun-07-16.rar

You can right click to toggle Square option at any stage.

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June 08, 2016, 08:33:17 am
Yep, got it.

Lets make this little adgustments:
- RMB works only if you start create box with Square Enabled, else it doe snot work, chek this video:
http://take.ms/trPHD

- Lets use MMB to enable Square instead of RMB, RMB is for Apply, it confuse a bit.

- Now when you create box and during creation you enable square it it changes its High so box no more stay on the ground where you draw it. I think it is because it uses Pivot position and Lengh to calculate square, can it be fixed? If no lets use High instead of Lengh to calculate Square, it will prevent from shifting from the graudnd.
Check this:





- Can you ples add option to disable Orientation Control when you create Square? It a bit confuse me, that extra step when box goes Up and Down.

- Lets add scroll so when you scroll it will link all segments and start to increas/decrease their amount. It will overide zoom so may be Ctrl+Sroll? What do toy think?

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June 09, 2016, 08:33:36 am
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jun-07-16.rar


- RMB works only if you start create box with Square Enabled, else it doe snot work, chek this video:
http://take.ms/trPHD

It works now. But it will set height to the value of width or length in turns while you keep toggling Square option. If you want to make it totally square, you need to go back to the beginning by Ctrl+RMB to reset the operation.


- Lets use MMB to enable Square instead of RMB, RMB is for Apply, it confuse a bit.

Now it also works on MMB. But I still keep RMB because for tablet users, they don't have MMB in the pen.


- Now when you create box and during creation you enable square it it changes its High so box no more stay on the ground where you draw it. I think it is because it uses Pivot position and Lengh to calculate square, can it be fixed? If no lets use High instead of Lengh to calculate Square, it will prevent from shifting from the graudnd.

Check the new behavior.


- Can you ples add option to disable Orientation Control when you create Square? It a bit confuse me, that extra step when box goes Up and Down.

Dont understand.


- Lets add scroll so when you scroll it will link all segments and start to increas/decrease their amount. It will overide zoom so may be Ctrl+Sroll? What do toy think?

Ctrl+WMB.

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June 09, 2016, 08:55:35 am
Everything works nice!!!
Lets disable at all that MMb and RMB for enabling Square, I experience too much confusions with it.
Lets have it only in UI, things will be more clear :)
Now it works awaysome when it use High for calculating square, and Ctrl+Scrl also greate!!!

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- Can you ples add option to disable Orientation Control when you create Square? It a bit confuse me, that extra step when box goes Up and Down.

Dont understand.
I mean this: http://take.ms/6S835


- What does this do?



Have some bug here:
http://take.ms/H5yjS
I sent you my config!
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June 09, 2016, 09:29:29 am
Everything works nice!!!
Lets disable at all that MMb and RMB for enabling Square, I experience too much confusions with it.
Lets have it only in UI, things will be more clear :)

I think you just need some time to digest it. It provides easy ways to create special box shapes, cubes or boxes which are square only on one side.


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- Can you ples add option to disable Orientation Control when you create Square? It a bit confuse me, that extra step when box goes Up and Down.

Dont understand.
I mean this: http://take.ms/6S835

I don't think it is a good idea to add an option. You may not need this now, but you may need it later when you have already forgot there is such an option.


- What does this do?


A snapping point is not just a point. It also has a normal direction, vertex normal for example, which can be used to control the orientation of the new object.


Have some bug here:
http://take.ms/H5yjS
I sent you my config!

Looks like you have enable this option, user tool window context menu > Button Auto Check Enabled. Someone asked for this for tutorial purpose, but I think I should remove it because it looks like a potential trouble maker.

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June 09, 2016, 10:03:35 am
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I think you just need some time to digest it. It provides easy ways to create special box shapes, cubes or boxes which are square only on one side.

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I don't think it is a good idea to add an option. You may not need this now, but you may need it later when you have already forgot there is such an option.

Hay IStonia, lets look on this requests through the idea that we have to sell.
Having this in mind it is easy to see my point, Box is top most important tool, that will create first impression, so it must work ultimatly smooth even if we loose some functionality!

So this is why I am asking one option for this two:
- Disable RMB and MMB for Square
- Disable Orientation picker step
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June 09, 2016, 10:19:21 am
Can you create a new thread in NVILL Discussion to ask people to try these new functions? I want to see other people's opinion.

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June 09, 2016, 10:39:58 am
Hay IStonia I sent you email, check it!
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June 10, 2016, 05:16:58 am
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jun-07-16.rar

If is Square, the box will be created on mouse left button released. Provided Shift key is not pressed.
Square toggle: Shift+RMB.
Tool Reset: Ctrl+Shift+RMB.

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June 10, 2016, 05:52:45 am
Hay IStonia, everything works greate!!!
You gave me some ideas, that flipping direction is working now if you keep shift pressed whyle drawing it is cool, but lets make it more cooler.
Lets assign that flip to shift? So if you click Shift it will be flipped, and you can flip it as much as you need by clicking shift? And may be made it universal feature not only for square?

Also you made Tool Reset: Ctrl+Shift+RMB, it is awaysome thing, I alwas wanted to have this feature, can we create button for this in UI?

And small bug:
http://take.ms/v1GP9
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June 10, 2016, 07:21:27 am
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jun-07-16.rar

Hay IStonia, everything works greate!!!
You gave me some ideas, that flipping direction is working now if you keep shift pressed whyle drawing it is cool, but lets make it more cooler.
Lets assign that flip to shift? So if you click Shift it will be flipped, and you can flip it as much as you need by clicking shift? And may be made it universal feature not only for square?

Also you made Tool Reset: Ctrl+Shift+RMB, it is awaysome thing, I alwas wanted to have this feature, can we create button for this in UI?

Done.

And small bug:
http://take.ms/v1GP9

Can't fix. There are some related issues can not be solved.

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June 10, 2016, 07:40:53 am
- Little bug:
https://monosnap.com/file/5oxBmd9FMNbOeB1W0Nxwwh9H3aZfFy

- About Drop and Create in scene, lets optimize UI and make only Check Box - Drop. By default it will be unchecked and tool will create in scene but if Drop is checked it will Drop.

- About Use Snap normal, in what cases we need it to turn off? I never tuched it, it alwas ON and works good.
May be there is reason to enable it by default and hide this check box, I still not sure when to use it :)



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