64-bit Version Test

Can your try these two
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jan-26b-14.rar
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jan-26c-14.rar

Also can you try Jan-25 update and see if it's the same.

Can your try these two

Both versions crashing as before, with same error message as shown earlier.

Also can you try Jan-25 update and see if it's the same.

I informed you in an earlier post, that version is OK apart from the "Tab" key which tabs 2 input fields with one press of the "Tab" key. I have not yet seen any other problems with that build, but have only used it for a short time.

I decided to make a quick check on windows XP 32 bit (I really dislike installing .net framework on that setup, but was curious), with build Jan-26a-14. It does not crash, but the key input gets stuck.
So for example, I press "Spacebar" and the view-port window will maximize, but after releasing the spacebar, it still shows (in view-port display) as pressed.

I decided to make a quick check on windows XP 32 bit (I really dislike installing .net framework on that setup, but was curious), with build Jan-26a-14. It does not crash, but the key input gets stuck.
So for example, I press "Spacebar" and the view-port window will maximize, but after releasing the spacebar, it still shows (in view-port display) as pressed.

Jan-26a-14 is a debug version, the key up is not processed. That's why.


In the Jan-26b version, I didn't modify any thing in the message filter. Just return it as is. If it crashes, Jan-25 would also crash too. I suspect that there may be something changed in your system, that's why I ask you to run Jan-25 again.

Can you try these two?
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jan-26d-14.rar
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jan-26f-14.rar

In the Jan-26b version, I didn't modify any thing in the message filter. Just return it as is. If it crashes, Jan-25 would also crash too. I suspect that there may be something changed in your system, that's why I ask you to run Jan-25 again.

The Jan-25 is not crashing. I am currently using it.

But with you blaming my system yet again. I will let others check the builds.

I've only had time to use Jan-25 version for an hour or so, but it looks like sticky keys and all the problems they caused are finally gone.

Generally, it seems to be a very solid build, with one exception. When I press the TAB key, it registers multiple times. Even a brief tap is like multiple taps. And if I hold this key, it traverses through input boxes like crazy.

I have yet to try one of those newest builds.

26a - crash when releasing keys (letters, modifiers, probably also numericals):

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  Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
  Problem Signature 01: nvil 1.0.exe
  Problem Signature 02: 2.3.5138.18134
  Problem Signature 03: 52e2d55c
  Problem Signature 04: NVil 1.0
  Problem Signature 05: 2.3.5138.18134
  Problem Signature 06: 52e2d55c
  Problem Signature 07: 42
  Problem Signature 08: 89
  Problem Signature 09: System.OverflowException
  OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
  Locale ID: 1045 
26b - same thing
26c - also crashes on key-press
26d - doesn't crash, but all keyboard keys simply don't work. Only mouse buttons are registered.
26f - 404

I'll stick to Jan-25 version for now. I really like it and would probably love it if it wasn't that TAB key problem.

What is 404?

What is 404?

404 (Page Not Found) Error

The link is broken.

Will you be available for a while? I want to find out what's wrong with Jan-26 asap. It seems only happen to 64-bit windows. What I remember is very little changes from Jan-15 to Jan-26, but I could have modified something else by accident. I don't have the Jan-25 code anymore.

I'll be available in about 8 hours. 

That's cool. Can you test this one?
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jan-26f-14.rar

and this one
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jan-26g-14.rar

26f seems OK. No crashes, all keys work again and TAB issue has been fixed.
26g crash on key-press (again: system overflow exception).

26f has no hook at all and you will see flickers when using Alt key.

Can you try this one, it should be the same as Jan-25?
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jan-26h-14.rar

Indeed, there's is flickering in 26f.

Some tests:
----- 26f and 26h -----
--- A
1. Start NVil.
2. Press ALT to navigate. There's no flickering (let's call it "blinking" from now on) in 26h, however as you mentioned - it blinks in 26f.
--- B
1. Start NVil.
2. Open "Materials" hot window. The screen blinks once.
3. Close the window.
4. Press ALT to navigate. The screen blinks once, although not 100% of the time(!).
5. Release ALT and press it again. No blinking.
--- C
1. Start NVil
2. Enter radial menu (SHIFT+CTRL+RMB) and choose cube primitive creation options. The screen blinks once.
3. Close the window.
4. Open radial menu and choose cylinder primitive creation options. The screen does not blink.
5. Same with other primitive creation windows.
6. Open "Materials" hot window. The screen blinks once.
7. Close it.
8. Again, open primitive creation window. No blinking.
9. Open "Materials" hot window. No blinking.
10. Press ALT to navigate. No blinking.

----- Jan 25 -----
Underlined text means different behaviour from 26f and 26h versions.
--- A
1. Start NVil.
2. Press ALT to navigate. No blinking.
---B
1. Start NVil.
2. Open "Materials" hot window. The screen blinks once.
3. Close the window.
4. Press ALT to navigate. It doesn't blink..
5. Release ALT and press it again. No blinking.
--- C
1. Start NVil
2. Enter radial menu (SHIFT+CTRL+RMB) and choose cube primitive creation options. No blinking  Actually I tested it again and it blinks. There's some degree of inconsistency with that blinking. Sometimes I get it, sometimes not. Therefore I can't guarantee 100% reliability of those tests.
3. Close the window.
4. Open radial menu and choose cylinder primitive creation options. The screen does not blink.
5. Same with other primitive creation windows.
6. Open "Materials" hot window. The screen blinks once.
7. Close it.
8. Again, open primitive creation window. No blinking.
9. Open "Materials" hot window. No blinking.
10. Press ALT to navigate. No blinking.

But blinking doesn't really bother me too much as it occurs only one or two times during the session. I'm more concerned about those sticky keys. I'll be doing some modeling in 26h now, so I'll be keep my eyes open for any "sticky" trouble. I hope they are really gone.

P. S. TAB key is OK in 26h.