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Title: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 15, 2015, 07:37:43 pm
Hi there,
I installed the slim dx 4, and tried to run nvil,
i tried it normally, then changed permissions, set to admin,
I tried everything but it will not start.

I am on a fangbook 3 laptop
16 gig ram
I7 quadcore
nvideo 850m
Windows 8.1

is anyoneelse having this problem? or know of a fix?
 thank you
Jikito
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 17, 2015, 05:23:23 am
Do you have .net framework 2.0, 4.0 and 4.5 installed?
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 17, 2015, 08:10:02 am
I think i have 2.0 and 4.0, i followed the links on the download when new updates came out. the last one was in may before i downloaded this one. was i supposed to uninstall 2.0 and 4.0 and install 4.5 or have all 3 going?

Jikito
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 17, 2015, 08:13:38 am
You only need to install 4.5. No need to uninstall the other versions.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 17, 2015, 11:15:38 pm
I get a message that 4.5 net is already a part of the operating system.. also upgraded to windows 10 earlier today after i installed it.
Still no luck on getting it to open. I can use the earlier earlier files, not the november 9th one though.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 17, 2015, 11:34:05 pm
Do you receive any error message?
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 17, 2015, 11:42:49 pm
no error message that i can tell when i try to start it. only message i get for installing 4.5 net is that its already on the operating system.

as far as nov 9th version.. nothing happens.. at all.. whatsoevor.

here is the message with 4.5 net
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5 is already a part of this operating system.  You do not need to install the .NET Framework 4.5 redistributable.

Same or higher version of .NET Framework 4.5 has already been installed on this computer
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 17, 2015, 11:47:39 pm
ok.. thank you for your patience with me.. i know i can be slow... anyways, I chose rightclick and then run as administrator from dropdown list and i get this error.

https://gyazo.com/8a7718aecb368c75b385b953b00b1a98
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 18, 2015, 12:12:55 am
I need to find a way to track down the problem. Please give me some time.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 18, 2015, 12:54:03 am
NP, thank you for your time and patience. if there is any info you need off my machine let me know.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 18, 2015, 01:07:54 am
Is it 64-bit?
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 18, 2015, 01:18:11 am
yes it is 64 bit
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 18, 2015, 01:20:14 am
this is the system i bought.. I know its not the best.. but yeah
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834198056
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 18, 2015, 01:30:55 am
Download this file
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/SlimDX.dll

place it in the same folder of NVil 1.0.exe.
If it doesn't work, remove it.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 18, 2015, 01:41:26 am
no worries.. got this error
https://gyazo.com/3e1bbeca0d7f7c9d2e78ecf669e3a87e
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 18, 2015, 01:52:09 am
Why you fired the "NVil 1.0 - Shortcut" instead of "NVil 1.0"?
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 18, 2015, 02:24:27 am
I had clicked both and gotten the same error.. i am sorry i got the shortcut in particular in the pic, i was trying to capture the error message for you.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 18, 2015, 10:06:51 am
See if you can load this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Test.rar
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 18, 2015, 12:38:45 pm
yes, it allows me to run it as long as i choose run as administrator
https://gyazo.com/7fd961d91e002fe5239c6edeba82a7ff
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 19, 2015, 05:56:36 am
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Test01.rar
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 19, 2015, 06:30:41 am
No workies, it just sits there and hangs.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 19, 2015, 07:38:55 am
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Test02.rar
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 19, 2015, 10:35:55 am
it also hangs
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 20, 2015, 03:24:41 am
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Test03.rar
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 22, 2015, 12:47:22 am
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Long work hours.
I tested version 3 and it seems to still hang.. the little curser does a spin thing, and then i really sort of need to reboot because the directory will not close out.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 22, 2015, 04:12:16 am
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Test04.rar
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 22, 2015, 04:41:33 am
I know your gonna get tired of hearing this .. "it still hangs" =/
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 22, 2015, 04:46:03 am
No way, test04 is the same as
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Test.rar

which you can load before.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 22, 2015, 04:52:13 am
Can you still load the first test version?
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 22, 2015, 02:35:09 pm
sadly no it just hangs now as well =/
https://gyazo.com/55db2be4958b65d5ef1607586e77c001
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 22, 2015, 02:40:50 pm
Just to be sure, I can run all the way up to september 4th, just not november
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 22, 2015, 02:57:09 pm
you might shoot me, please dont kill me too hard. Old woman whose not as computer saavy alert.
I turned off my avast anti virus.. and test 4 now works. its odd but between september and november.. avaste hates it.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 22, 2015, 05:43:55 pm
You are saved. I'll shoot an ant instead.

So is it every thing ok now? Can you load test03?
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 23, 2015, 12:51:41 am
i can run version 3 and 4 on the tests...it was having a problem with the anti virus.
any recommendations of something better then avaste?

so sorry to put you through all the headache.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 23, 2015, 06:59:55 am
I have no idea which anti virus software is better.

Can you run the Nov update version now?
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 23, 2015, 07:36:25 am
yes as long as i totally disable avaste antivirus.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 23, 2015, 07:49:34 am
Does avaste have settings? I mean you may have set it too strict for NVil to run.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 23, 2015, 11:42:06 am
I am not sure, I will look it up
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 23, 2015, 11:42:42 am
but all the others before november ran just fine without changing avaste
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 24, 2015, 07:16:42 am
Are you sure you can run Jul 21 update with avaste on?
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 24, 2015, 03:18:48 pm
yes , just tested, I can run the july version with avaste on.
well, retested anyways.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 24, 2015, 05:42:12 pm
NVil was upgraded to .net 4.5 and slimdx .net 4 version since jul 21 update. Now seems that's not the cause.

Can you follow this thread and test the updates along and see at which update NVil can't run with avaste on?
http://voidworld.cmcproductions.co.uk/index.php/topic,2792.0.html
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 24, 2015, 05:50:23 pm
yeah I will do that tonight when i get home from work
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 25, 2015, 11:41:01 am
Actually cut out for me on the first one i opened, wich i believe is september 23rd.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 26, 2015, 07:39:24 am
I don't have the code for July and September updates any more. So I can't tell what exactly I have changed between the two versions.

Can you run any of the test, test01-test04 with avaste on? Since you kept changing your pc setting when we did the test on them, so the previous tests are not reliable.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 27, 2015, 03:11:24 am
only test 4 runs with avaste on
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 27, 2015, 07:02:21 am
I looked back to your post responding to the first time I requested you to test test04 version. Your answer is

"I know your gonna get tired of hearing this .. "it still hangs" =/"

Do you have any clue why test04 version didn't run before?

Also when you restested the test versions, did they hang like before or you got a crash message?
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: jikito on November 27, 2015, 07:09:01 am
I am not the geeky type, but the best i can figure out, is avaste seems to put everything into a sandbox mode.. wich is like an eviroment with an enviroment. and It seemed to be messing with quite a bit.
honestly, I think its avast evilness , and on payday will be getting a new antivirus.
something with the update made avaste say screw you...but as i said.. i noticed this with project dogwaffle, curvy3d and several other proggies.
if i run it standard it will not work...if i choose run outside of sandbox it will it seems.. much more info then that..and i am above my level.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: IStonia on November 27, 2015, 05:17:28 pm
Yeah, it seems to me avaste has some issues.
Title: Re: Nov 9 Version will not start
Post by: Trialgois on November 27, 2015, 11:49:47 pm
I personally never had any kind of problem with Avast and NVIL and i got it for several years always been my anti-virus