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Title: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 02, 2015, 04:11:10 pm
Hallo everybody,
This is 1.0 Beta release of Samardac Bridges.
Bridges is Software that connects 3D Applications.
At this moment it connects NVil, MoI 3D and KeyShot.
You can find more info and download it here: http://www.samardac.com/Bridges/
This is Beta so there can be Bugs, so let me know if you meat them.

Requirements:
Windows 64 bit, no less then Windows 7
MoI 3D, no less then  V. 3.0
NVil 3D, latest version*
KeyShot, version 5
*to use T-Spline to connect NVil and MoI you have to install Rhino 5 and T-Spline.

Some demo videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJS7U3Q5IHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbkM_CuWUMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOfRbSU9wJ0

Want to thanks IStonia for help.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: Mason on March 02, 2015, 08:36:48 pm
download is corrupt, tried three times.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 03, 2015, 05:48:47 am
Just tried it, looks like everything is working, try once again.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: Mason on March 03, 2015, 09:14:50 pm
I have nvil installed in Dropbox, running in portable mode so that I can use Dropbox at home and work with the same hotkeys and preferances.

Do the Bridges support Nvil being used in portable mode?

At the moment, Ctrl+alt+a does not activate Nvil Bridge, but it does start inside Moi.   But when sending to Nvil from Moi,  nothing happens.


I have done the activation so that the Bridge can find the Moi.exe and Nvil.exe which are both installed on Dropbox.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 04, 2015, 06:14:31 am
Mason, I do not know how DropBox work so I can not say to you what is wrong.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: Mason on March 04, 2015, 08:36:10 am
Dropbox is just a file location.

Nvil can run in portable mode, so that the preferances and hotkeys are stored in the same directory as the application.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: Mason on March 04, 2015, 08:52:13 am
I can get the bridge started in both applications and "activated" 

Sadly,  assets are not being exported between Moi and Nvil.

Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 04, 2015, 08:59:23 am
Mason, bridges are activated for both NVil and MoI?
So what is going when you export form MOI to NVil? Window with NVil activates or it stay in MoI?
Also go to c:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Samardac\Bridges\ and see if Samardac Bridges.obj is created.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: Mason on March 04, 2015, 08:07:18 pm
no .obj is exported when using the bridge from Moi --> Nvil

On one PC, Nvil bride will not activate at all.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 05, 2015, 09:21:16 am
Did not activate NVil? Very streng... Nvil has simples activation, just save path to NVil. Is it here c:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Samardac\Bridges\  ini file?
In MoI run Ctrl+Shift+Alt+2 and tell me is here export dialog?
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: bisenberger on March 08, 2015, 03:18:13 am
Hi samardac,
I had to use Run as adminstrator to get Samardac Bridges to activate MoI. I can send stuff from MoI to NVil, but not NVil to MoI. I'm running windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit.

Would it possible to send stuff back and forth to Rhino?
Thanks,
Bill

I corrected my original post.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 08, 2015, 05:38:04 am
bisenberger,
Quote
I had to use Run as adminstrator to get Samardac Bridges to activate MoI. I can send stuff from MoI to NVil, but not NVil to MoI. I'm running windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit.
Do you use latest version of NVil?
If yes what is going when you push Merge, what is happen?

Quote
Would it possible to send stuff back and forth to Rhino?
Bridges do not send models to Rhino in full way, now it just use it as transit for converting obj to nurbs using T-Spline.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: bisenberger on March 08, 2015, 02:03:39 pm
Do you use latest version of NVil?
If yes what is going when you push Merge, what is happen?

Yes, I'm using the lates NVil (it was posted yesterday).
When I push Merge it Exports and Starts MoI, but nothing shows up in MoI.

Do I need the Max Smirnov ImportObj and Subdiv scripts posted on the MoI forum?
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 08, 2015, 05:10:54 pm
bisenberger,
Run - Merge, Creas. When it goes to MoI push Ctrl+Shift+Alt+6, and tell me if it works.
You do not need to install Max Smirnov's scripts Bridges install them automatically.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: bisenberger on March 08, 2015, 05:47:27 pm
Hi samardac,
That option was blank by default. After I changed it everything is working.  :)
Thanks,
Bill
(http://www.digital-mapping.net/forums/NVil/bridge.jpg)
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: bisenberger on March 08, 2015, 05:52:10 pm
samardac,
Is there a way to set the scale. It appears that things going from NVil to MoI are small in MoI, and things going from MoI to NVil are large in NViL.

Edited:
I just tested something I sent from NVil to MoI, then I sent it back to NVil from MoI and it was the same size. It looks like the appearence of larger and smaller scale is just when sending New and is relative to the grid.

Nice tool! Thanks
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 08, 2015, 06:12:23 pm
bisenbergerŠ±
I'm glad that everything is working!
Quote
Is there a way to set the scale. It appears that things going from NVil to MoI are small in MoI, and things going from MoI to NVil are large in NViL.
It is because you create bigger model in NVil :) All objestcs are the same sizes.
I made floor grid the same size in NVil and MoI and when I model I have objects the same size, do the same things. It is just because object sizes.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: bisenberger on March 08, 2015, 11:09:54 pm
Would it be possible to transfer MoI nurb curves to NVil splines? The NVil spline tools are amazing!
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 09, 2015, 05:58:38 am
Quote
Would it be possible to transfer MoI nurb curves to NVil splines? The NVil spline tools are amazing!
This question is for IStonia  :)
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: Mason on March 10, 2015, 09:37:13 pm
Did not activate NVil? Very streng... Nvil has simples activation, just save path to NVil. Is it here c:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Samardac\Bridges\  ini file?
In MoI run Ctrl+Shift+Alt+2 and tell me is here export dialog?



here is the  .ini  and I am not getting any export dialog or even an .obj

[MoI]
X=1237
Y=50
KS=0
NVil=1
NVil_Exp_Dialog=1
MoI_Exp_Dialog=0
KS_Imp_Dialog=0
Scripts_Count=8
Ini_items_count=10
Bridges_Position_X=987
Bridges_Position_Y=318



[NVil]
X=1621
Y=735
KS=1
MoI=1
KS_Imp_Dialog=0
NVil_to_MoI_DropDownList=
Bridges_Position_X=987
Bridges_Position_Y=318
NVil=


[KS]
X=1416
Y=690
Nvil=1
MoI=1
KS_Imp_Dialog=1
Bridges_Position_X=987
Bridges_Position_Y=318
KS=

[Activation]
X=675
Y=434

[Settings]
x=1114
y=634
Show_Winows=0
Show_Rhino=1


[Directories]
MoI_Dir=D:\Projects\Dropbox\Moi3d\MoI 3.0\MoI.exe
NVil_Dir=D:\Projects\Dropbox\Nvil\Nvil\NVil 1.0.exe



[Properties]
Version=1.0(Beta)
Update_Index=0
Bridges_exe_path=C:\Program Files\Samardac\Bridges 1.0 Beta\Samardac Bridges.exe
Brides_Dir=C:\Program Files\Samardac\Bridges 1.0 Beta



Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 11, 2015, 06:28:40 am
Mason, can you record video to show me what is going on. With installation, activation and working.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: bisenberger on March 18, 2015, 03:24:32 am
Hi samardac, Did you see Max Smirnov posted ImportObj v1.2 on th MoI forum?
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=6674.220
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 18, 2015, 05:07:15 am
Yep I saw it I'll maje update fo vridges soon
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on March 18, 2015, 08:20:34 am
1 minute Poly to Nurbs.
https://youtu.be/moUNYmq0UbY
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on April 06, 2015, 02:09:49 pm
Samardac Bridges 1.1

Updates:

1. Samardac Bridges now is portable application so uninstal previous version and use this one.

2. When you go from KeyShot to NVil or MoI, using Bridges, it will Pause KeyShot. So KeyShot will not consume CPU when you not use it.

3. New functions to KeyShot Bridge was added. Now you can reload last model if something went wrong when you imported it. Check this screen:
(https://monosnap.com/file/T0AIJLuO9wcUvQzY3BZ3efwL5GtGjY.png)

Download:
http://bit.ly/1ICWNuE
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: mgg942 on April 21, 2015, 04:52:54 am
Andrei, I've got Bridges Activated in NVIL but not in Moi 3.0, though bridges.ini file has the correct path to Moi.
I'm running Windows 8.1 64 bit and my c: drive (where Moi.exe is located) is an SSD.
NVIL in on e: drive which is a regular hard drive.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on April 21, 2015, 06:05:23 am
mgg942, I'm not sure I understood what is your problem?
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: mgg942 on April 21, 2015, 09:40:35 am
Sorry for being unclear.

I have been able to activate Bridges in NVIL.

But I have NOT been able to activate Bridges in MOI.

I'm running Windows 8.1 64 bit.

MOI.exe is on my c: drive which is a Solid State Drive

NVIL.exe is on my e: drive which is a regular hard drive.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on April 21, 2015, 09:47:25 am
You mean activate in Tray menu?
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: mgg942 on April 21, 2015, 09:50:32 am
Yes I do.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on April 21, 2015, 09:53:22 am
Popst here ini and does MoI folder - Commands has [Brideges...] files?
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: mgg942 on April 21, 2015, 10:04:11 am
Here's Bridges.ini
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[MoI]
X=1209
Y=412
KS=1
NVil=1
NVil_Exp_Dialog=0
MoI_Exp_Dialog=0
KS_Imp_Dialog=0
Scripts_Count=8
Ini_items_count=10
Bridges_Position_X=987
Bridges_Position_Y=318



[NVil]
X=1234
Y=469
KS=1
MoI=1
KS_Imp_Dialog=0
NVil_to_MoI_DropDownList=2
Bridges_Position_X=1415
Bridges_Position_Y=479
NVil=


[KS]
X=1195
Y=541
Nvil=1
MoI=1
KS_Imp_Dialog=0
Bridges_Position_X=1093
Bridges_Position_Y=332
KS=

[Activation]
X=1528
Y=513

[Settings]
x=1114
y=634
Show_Winows=0
Show_Rhino=1


[Directories]
KS_Dir=C:\Program Files\KeyShot5\bin\keyshot5.exe
NVil_Dir=E:\Users\Mike\Downloads\Nvil\NVil-Apr-07-15\NVil 1.0.exe
MoI_Dir=C:\Program Files (x86)\MoI 3.0\MoI.exe
Rhino_Dir=C:\Program Files\Rhinoceros 5 (64-bit)\System\Rhino.exe



[Properties]
Version=1.1
Update_Index=0
Bridges_exe_path=E:\Users\Mike\Downloads\Nvil\Samardac\Samardac Bridges 1.1.exe
Brides_Dir=E:\Users\Mike\Downloads\Nvil\Samardac
////////////////

MOI 3.0 Commands folder does NOT have any Bridges files.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on April 21, 2015, 10:22:57 am
Very strange... It say something when you try to activate it?

check MoI Shortcuts have it those commands:
(https://monosnap.com/file/dm2EuncSYR14taRXWXfDyglC0Pb6hd.png)
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: mgg942 on April 21, 2015, 10:33:45 am
Yes!

Except that I have [Bridges]Import_Obj
instead of         [Bridges]Import_Obj exact
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on April 21, 2015, 10:39:00 am
What version do you use?
Use this last one: http://samardac-bridges.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: mgg942 on April 21, 2015, 10:55:29 am
I am using version 1.1
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on April 21, 2015, 11:04:22 am
Check once again if you have these files:
(https://monosnap.com/file/gZ5pfIsvCL2dGWQuHdXOJdNvwRWOLY.png)
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: mgg942 on April 21, 2015, 11:20:25 am
I've checked again with Windows Explorer. 301 files but none starting [

Also did a search using Void Tools Everything - could find nothing starting [B
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on April 21, 2015, 11:25:02 am
Very strange, looks like  Bridges can not copy files in this directory. It could modify Moi.ini and add shortcuts to it but can not copy files that is why it can not activate.
May be you can try to run it as administrator?

Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: mgg942 on April 21, 2015, 12:09:32 pm
Ole!

I ran Samardac Bridges1.1.exe as Administrator and have now been able to activate MOI!!!

Many thanks,

Mike.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on April 21, 2015, 12:15:12 pm
Nice  :)!
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: mgg942 on April 21, 2015, 12:23:42 pm
Now I've exported SAMARADAC SPOON from NVIL via SAMARDAC Bridges and exported SAMARDAC SPOON from MOI as an .stl file and loaded it into Cura. Tomorrow I'll print it.
My (beginners version) of your spoon was created by following your tutorial which I've managed to follow having 'done' a bunch of your introductory tutorials.
I think that it's hard to get started in NVIL but I believe the it will be worth the effort.
I should mention that I've been using, from the start, the SAMARDAC Configuration!
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on April 21, 2015, 12:45:45 pm
mgg942,
yes it is hard to start NVil from scratch that is why a lot of people dicide not to have a deal with this. So that is why I made Samardac Config and a lot of introduction tutorials. I'm glad that new people start to use NVil becouse of this Config and my tutorials. :)
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: Mason on April 21, 2015, 08:03:55 pm
Andrei, your download link is down.
Title: Re: Samardac Bridges
Post by: samardac on April 22, 2015, 12:35:30 am
Mason, fixed.