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General Category => Bug Reports => Topic started by: samardac on March 16, 2014, 02:33:46 pm
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I alwas notice that the best fit command do not work good when I try to best fit objects.
I attached screen where I run best fit, look how small is selected detail and how appart it is. Why it is so? I have to zoom in everytime after I run best fit. I made something wrong?
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Where is your object Pivot located?
Best fit for objects always calculates the fit based on object size around the objects pivot, regardless of where the pivot is located. It also does not take into account wide screen display.
It is annoying. I zoom to fit based on sub_object selection.
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Yes, it was becouse pivot.
"It is annoying. I zoom to fit based on sub_object selection." What do you mean?
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Yes, it was becouse pivot.
"It is annoying. I zoom to fit based on sub_object selection." What do you mean?
In object mode:-
(http://i.imgur.com/aLfGhuG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XAsbXQB.jpg)
Polygon mode (all polygons selected)
(http://i.imgur.com/H5w89CP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pRnjKjZ.jpg)
I use Composite tool for object best fit.
(http://i.imgur.com/osslD3a.jpg)
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Thank you very much! It works good)
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But it has big dissadvantage, it works only for object mode... But if I want to best fit edge or points I have to use onother tool... Not good.
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fixed.
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Cool!
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fixed.
So I know there's been a change in code, but I can't see a difference in behavior [Edit: is a bug in Object Pivot StreamlineTool?]. BestFit in object mode still takes the object pivot into account when setting the new view. I just cross checked with Maya and Maya doesn't care where the pivot is located. It fits the view around the object's geometry.
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Vaquero, hm, It works good for me. Now it do not take in account where object pivot is.
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I tested again with the default setup and it works. But with my config it doesn't... *sigh*
One more thing: When a single object is selected it nicely fills almost the whole view with it, but when multiple objects are seleted it is farther away from them. For my taste it could zoom in some more so they, too, fill the view.
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One more thing: When a single object is selected it nicely fills almost the whole view with it, but when multiple objects are seleted it is farther away from them. For my taste it could zoom in some more so they, too, fill the view.
Yes, I agree with you, it would be good to have them more close to not zoom in every time.
So lets ask to IStonia to fix it :)
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I found a bug which is causing what I've been experiencing. If I use the Pivot Tool (Visual Tool) the Best Fit works fine, but if I use the Object Pivot Streamline Tool, the Best Fit is working as before. Can someone check, if you got the same bug?
Here's a video:
http://youtu.be/32GDrS9FmUY (http://youtu.be/32GDrS9FmUY)
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But it has big dissadvantage, it works only for object mode... But if I want to best fit edge or points I have to use onother tool... Not good.
I have different tools for best fit, but they all have the same hotkey.
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I found a bug which is causing what I've been experiencing. If I use the Pivot Tool (Visual Tool) the Best Fit works fine, but if I use the Object Pivot Streamline Tool, the Best Fit is working as before. Can someone check, if you got the same bug?
I think you will find the problem comes from if the "Object Pivot" and "Mesh Pivot" are not in same location.
If you use the visual tools pivot tool, but move only object pivot(not the default "Mesh pivots as well"), then same problem.
Nothing like an over complicated system, of having object and mesh pivots, then the application does not know how to deal with them for viewport fit.
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I was just checking (as I have not used the object "best fit" for a while). It still has the problem when object pivot and mesh pivot have been separated. Even after moving object/mesh pivot back together, the object best fit does not work as it should.
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Forgot to mention, if you have 2 (or more) separate mesh selected, the "Best fit" only best fits the first mesh selected.
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Try this one
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Mar-17-14.rar
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Using the object Pivot streamline tool is not causing an issue anymore with the best fit command. Thanks!
I noticed that best fitting to a cube's Mesh component results in a different zoom level than best fitting to the cube on object level.
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I'm really liking the updated behaviour of Best Fit - thanks! It works the same as in ZBrush (and others) now, so that's a nice little workflow improvement for me.
Similar to what Vaquero noted, I've seen a small inconsistency between using "Best Fit" with a mesh in "Object" mode, versus "Mesh" mode and other subojects modes. Say, for example, that I've imported a human head mesh from ZBrush to NVil. It arrives in NVil, and object pivot for the object is set to the world origin, though the head mesh itself is sat about 30mm above the origin (in this example, let's say I'm making a 32mm scale figurine). With the 17Mar14 NVil build, if I select the head object and "Best Fit" while in object mode, I am automatically zoomed into the head - great. But, if I then pan/rotate/zoom my viewport so that the camera is looking toward the origin/object pivot, the gizmo snaps back to the origin/pivot - fine, that's to be expected for as long as my "Pivot Position" is set to "Object". *However*, if I then pan/rotate/zoom the viewport again while still looking in the general direction of the the origin/pivot, my viewport movements are now centered on the pivot, as though I had not "Best Fit" to the head. In Mesh mode and all subobject modes, this does not occur - once I've best fit, the camera more or less stays oriented to selection which I've "fit".
To put all of that more simply: only when in Object Mode *and* with Pivot Position set to "Object" OR when in another mode and using the Manual Pivot Position manipulation tool, does the viewport camera override a "Best Fit" view to instead center upon the object pivot.
It must be said, though, that I was really just trying to test the new "Best Fit" behaviour to see if I could find any bugs. What I've mentioned only potentially seems to be a minor inconsistency, and I don't think it necessarily indicates any problem to me (in my limited tests so far). Overall, it's a big improvement, imo - so thank you!
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Why when I best fit, it fits it so small?
(http://cdn.joxi.ru/media/cache/thumbnail/uploads/prod/2014/05/08/1fd/5c2/ddebab9e37e66f5c28f9cb0650374a96400aff4f.jpg) (http://joxi.ru/m1NrUxjKTJCYRmRfm9w)