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General Category => Community Help => Topic started by: mkdm on May 30, 2017, 09:19:46 pm

Title: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 30, 2017, 09:19:46 pm
Hi Istonia.

I can't believe...
I have a serious problem here with my brand new PC.

I have installed Win 10 Pro 64 bit with all normal updates but
WITHOUT THE TERRIBLE CREATORS UPDATE.

Then I've installed SlimDX library and finally I've downloaded NVIL and copied somewhere on my hd.

Now on this new PC both NVIL and R3F won't run.

Simply this is the displayed message (same thing for NVIL):

(https://monosnap.com/file/zxAOybAyRHNrhXwh6Z5WpVsxSGSoDo.png)


Please HELP.

Thanks.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: IStonia on May 30, 2017, 10:00:22 pm
Can you test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-May-31-17-TestA.rar

Let me know what messages you see.
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 30, 2017, 10:36:32 pm
Hi Istonia.

I see "AAA" then "BBB" then...crashes.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: IStonia on May 30, 2017, 10:53:23 pm
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-May-31-17-TestB.rar
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 30, 2017, 11:02:37 pm
I see "AAA" then "BBB" then "CCC" then...crashes.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: IStonia on May 30, 2017, 11:27:49 pm
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-May-31-17-TestC.rar
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 30, 2017, 11:40:08 pm
I see "AAA" then "BBB" then "CCC" then "DDD" then "EEE" then...crashes.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: IStonia on May 31, 2017, 12:14:35 am
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-May-31-17-TestD.rar
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 31, 2017, 12:23:59 am
I see "AAA", "BBB", "CCC", "DDD", "EEE", "FFF", "GGG", "HHH", "III", "JJJ", "KKK", "LLL", "MMMM"
then...crashes.

Now...I have to go :)

Let's continue tomorrow.

I'm confident that you can win against the "malicious" Windows 10 Pro :)

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: IStonia on May 31, 2017, 12:44:52 am
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-May-31-17-TestE.rar

----

Also please check your DirectX installation.
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA10658/how-can-i-ensure-my-directx-and-graphics-drivers-are-working-correctly

Check the Notes area at the bottom of the Sound1/Sound2 tab, and check that no problems are found.
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 31, 2017, 08:49:36 am
I see "AAA", "BBB", "MMMM"
then...crashes.

Also I have checked my brand new system with the "dxdiag" command and all is OK.

All other Gfx software I have installed on my new PC work fine without any problem
(Moi, Rhino, Blender, and so on...) and I have a Gtx 1080 Ti with DirectX 12.

Only I don't have speakers linked to my PC so "dxdiag" says that I don't have any sound card,
but...I don't need a sound card to run Gfx software.

These are the "dxdiag" screenshots :

(https://monosnap.com/file/bWKgTiu0bEWQKPrte01o1EKj2rlJxg.png)

(https://monosnap.com/file/0ZWu7QmA1cBBBWiDMnZzN8aqA2PiQZ.png)

(https://monosnap.com/file/g7qXLZPz8hlVfreAFVdH67MzXiDWGw.png)

(https://monosnap.com/file/gdC61WIsVgvVExmH4p9TFTySninEkI.png)


Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 31, 2017, 08:51:25 am
P.S. Now I have to go...

See you in a few hours.
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: IStonia on May 31, 2017, 09:14:21 am
Test this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-May-31-17-TestF.rar
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 31, 2017, 01:04:18 pm
I see "AAA", "BBB", "MMM", "NNN", "OOO", "PPP"
then...IT OPENS!!!

We're on the right track...I hope :)

But...as you can see from these images, the UI is weird and bad displayed,
please notice also the button's text, it's very bad.

Furthermore the viewports don't react to mouse command and when I press any key
I always get this error message :

(https://monosnap.com/file/vhmXaguxm2LGqNF6aJ3AldIq13j75M.png)

(https://monosnap.com/file/BX3u7EsiTXQq4RMqEEqGZYIdooV0Ye.png)

(https://monosnap.com/file/Get8pMoCGyCZyqCuS4TzPbNefp8fla.png)

(https://monosnap.com/file/4HOlwgvzhG5jvpxSotdOPzRB3jX3KV.png)


Furthermore if I click the X window button NVIL won't close and I have to force its closing with
the Task Manager.

I stay tuned. Thanks.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 31, 2017, 01:55:14 pm
...Forgot to say...
My Windows have the stock display scaling of 100%, so the weird NVIL display issue
it's not up to Windows scaling.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: IStonia on May 31, 2017, 01:57:43 pm
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jun-01-17.rar
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 31, 2017, 02:20:29 pm
Great Istonia!

We're almost there :)

The main UI now is correctly displayed, only the button's text is still weird.

(https://monosnap.com/file/RRcGocWmlkCLFsEXzKNLWcdc5SW73p.png)

(https://monosnap.com/file/56aTzryAw5mwT9V6god6lc35zqgKKO.png)

Another issue is this strange UI displayed within the Button's UI, if I scroll the view :

(https://monosnap.com/file/YdSLNCkZ16pprQqla07plV0RqnC6BG.png)

Also, I'm noticing that maybe you are using an old version of your config.
For example, if I remember correctly, this option should be turned ON :

(https://monosnap.com/file/ASunKVdVhuz4NMTD5a9SLE4ID6mbGJ.png)

I stay tuned.

Thanks.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 31, 2017, 02:22:34 pm
P.S.

Another minor but annoying issue is that now when NVIL is launched its windows isn't the topmost window,
but it remain behind all other windows.

As you can see with this capture of my taskbar :

(https://monosnap.com/file/g5HNjI6y08Hz5J8WJjvMC6u2pZSjKI.png)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on May 31, 2017, 08:27:14 pm
Hi Istonia.

What's the situation on fixing Windows 10 issues ?

Have you compiled some new build ?

Please fix also Rocket3F because it's in the same situation.

Please, let me know.

Thanks a lot for your support.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: IStonia on June 01, 2017, 07:06:11 am
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jun-02-17.rar


Also, I'm noticing that maybe you are using an old version of your config.
For example, if I remember correctly, this option should be turned ON :

(https://monosnap.com/file/ASunKVdVhuz4NMTD5a9SLE4ID6mbGJ.png)

I stay tuned.

Thanks.

Marco (mkdm)

This option is off by default.

P.S.

Another minor but annoying issue is that now when NVIL is launched its windows isn't the topmost window,
but it remain behind all other windows.

As you can see with this capture of my taskbar :

(https://monosnap.com/file/g5HNjI6y08Hz5J8WJjvMC6u2pZSjKI.png)

I don't know how to fix it.

Hi Istonia.

What's the situation on fixing Windows 10 issues ?

Have you compiled some new build ?

Please fix also Rocket3F because it's in the same situation.

Please, let me know.

Thanks a lot for your support.

Marco (mkdm)

I will make the R3F version later.
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on June 01, 2017, 07:24:38 am
Hi Istonia.

In a few ours I'll try your latest build, now I can't.

@You : "...I don't know how to fix it."

I hope to find a solution.

@You : "...I will make the R3F version later...."

Well, perfect!

Thanks.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on June 01, 2017, 11:44:12 am
Hi Istonia.

Wonderful !!!

http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jun-02-17.rar seems to work fine !!!

Thanks a lot :)

Only that minor bug remain. Its window not go to be the topmost once opened the app.

I wait for the R3F fix also.

Thanks again.

Could you put this build into official "news and update" section ?

I stay tuned. Ciao.

Marco (mkdm)

Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: IStonia on June 02, 2017, 06:02:28 am

Only that minor bug remain. Its window not go to be the topmost once opened the app.


Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jun-03-17.rar
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on June 02, 2017, 08:11:12 am
Hi Istonia.

It seems that all works fine now!!!

But before pop the champagne I have to wait and suffer again...

The fucking Windows 10 has launched automatically in a subtle way with a strange popup,
a big update and I suppose that it includes the shit Creators Update.

I only hope that this fucking virus called "Windows 10" is not making disaster in my brand new system...

One restarted i will retry ALL my software pipeline and I will notify you if ALL is still OK.

Meanwhile I've to hope that this update isn't doing disaster.

Fucking Microsoft !!!!!!

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on June 02, 2017, 10:21:21 am
Istonia....believe me...what a suffering!!!!

Three hours to finish this subtle and unwanted Creators Update...

But...incredibly ALL seems to works fine!!!!

It seems that I've only lost all my settings for Nvidia Control Panel and I had to reinstall
Nvidia Drivers but it seems that after that all works fine.

And above all.....NVIL WORKS WITHOUT ISSUES!!!!! :)

Only Rocket3F remains to repair now.

What a suffering.....fucking Microsoft again and forever!!!!!!!

Thanks a lot.

For me this http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Jun-03-17.rar update is OK!

I stay tuned. Have a nice day.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on June 02, 2017, 09:01:29 pm
Hi Istonia.

I want to thank you for your effort into updating NVIL to run also
on the latest terrible and malicious Windows 10 Creator Updates.

Thank you very much !

Furthermore I would like to thank you concretely with a little :) donation on your Paypal account,
just in order to support a little bit you developing activity.

What's your Paypal email ?

Regards.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: IStonia on June 03, 2017, 10:10:40 am
info@digitalfossils.com
Title: Re: NVIL Won't run. Win 10 Pro WITHOUT Creators Update
Post by: mkdm on June 03, 2017, 12:25:27 pm
info@digitalfossils.com

Ok. ASAP I will make a donation.

See you.

Marco (mkdm)