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General Category => Feature Requests => Topic started by: rubberDuck on August 13, 2017, 02:56:50 pm

Title: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: rubberDuck on August 13, 2017, 02:56:50 pm
IStonia, will you consider left-aligning the text located on Radial Menu lists? It is difficult for a human eye to scan a jagged line when looking for a particular text entry.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: IStonia on August 14, 2017, 02:41:30 pm
Done.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: rubberDuck on August 14, 2017, 04:22:32 pm
Thank you! It is so much easier on the eyes. :)
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: steve on September 12, 2017, 08:47:07 am
.........left-aligning the text located on Radial Menu lists?

So that change is your fault. ::)

It would not be too bad if not for the poorly cut of(rounded) corners of the text boxes. Who`s fault is that? Can that be changed back to the more, IMO, professional looking original?

Pic01 original
Pic02 current with cut off corners



Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: rubberDuck on September 12, 2017, 09:36:38 am
Yeah, left alignment is mea culpa, but I had nothing to do with round corners of radial menu items. :)

IStonia, a little bit of side margins would definitely increase the clarity of the list (see: Maya's Marking Menus).
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: steve on September 12, 2017, 09:55:58 am
Yeah, left alignment is mea culpa, but I had nothing to do with round corners of radial menu items. :)

Although the inconsistancy of the left-aligned text of the radial menu with the center-aligned visual tools menu (I suppose a bit of OCD kicking in) is OK, the main issue I have is with the cut off corners.
If you have customized the radial menu, then it is possibly not an issue, and if was, then more customization could be made. But from a default config, it looks bad and gets worst when moving down the menu`s:-

Default "common tools" Radial menu:-




Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: rubberDuck on September 12, 2017, 11:17:17 am
I work fullscreen, so I don't use any visual tools apart of a couple of customized popups. Radial tools and those popups are never visible at the same time, so I can't even tell if the difference in their text alignment would bother me. ::)

I solved the problem with long tool names in radial menus by renaming the tools to shorter versions. I couldn't stand those "two-liners". I agree that they don't look pretty.

Rectangular shape of radial menu items is a preferred look for me too.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: steve on September 12, 2017, 10:02:21 pm
I was trying to create a drop_down menu (similar to silo/wings) from the radial menu, but the issue now is with the left_alignment of the text. I see from your last pic (of your radial menu) you have seen the issue yorself (see attached pic).

I will try with hot-(user)-windows.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: rubberDuck on September 13, 2017, 12:25:04 am
Yup, I noticed this. :)

I made a mockup of how the radial menu could look like.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: steve on September 13, 2017, 12:41:59 am
Apart from the gaps(the horizontal gaps between the lower menu items), looks good.


I was making a menu system from user tool windows, but have now hit a bug in the test builds. :(
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: kevjon on September 13, 2017, 07:40:28 am

I made a mockup of how the radial menu could look like.

I really like it, I wouldn't complain if Istonia was able to change it so it looks like that.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: rubberDuck on September 17, 2017, 11:58:35 am
IStonia, thanks for revamping the radial menu. :)
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: IStonia on September 18, 2017, 09:49:58 am
So you are happy with it?
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: kevjon on September 18, 2017, 10:38:11 am
I really like the square edges.

What would be good is if you customise the name on each radial menu.

For example:
"Show unselected object in as transparent" is too long winded for a radial menu so it would be good to be able to change it to "Transparent Unselected"

and also be able to change the font style and size.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: steve on September 18, 2017, 10:42:51 am
It is certainly improved(returned to its original).

I question the need for the gap/underscore between the text entries in the lower menu. I would prefer that to be removed, or possibly an option to change the color of the gap so it can be hidden(blended with menu).

As example:-

Pic01 shows bottom part of Nvil radial menu, with gaps between menu items.
Pic02 shows one of the gaps is now a white line underscore showing last selection.

I was trying to get(as close as possible) to a menu similar to Silo (pic03).
(I will have to go with user tools window, and have user button with text_image to flatten buttons)

Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: steve on September 18, 2017, 10:47:39 am
What would be good is if you customise the name on each radial menu.

Renaming of tool names are now done via the "Tool Search" window. Open "Tool Search", search/find the tool, RMB it, select "Create User Tool Text".

Radial menu size/text size can be changed in "Edit > Preference > "General" >> "Radial Menu Font scale" >> "Radial Menu Scale"




Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: IStonia on September 18, 2017, 10:50:17 am
For example:
"Show unselected object in as transparent" is too long winded for a radial menu so it would be good to be able to change it to "Transparent Unselected"

If you have the idea of which tool name should be changed to what name. Just give me a list so I can change them internally.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: rubberDuck on September 18, 2017, 11:21:02 am
I question the need for the gap/underscore between the text entries in the lower menu. I would prefer that to be removed, or possibly an option to change the color of the gap so it can be hidden(blended with menu).
I on the other hand do like those gaps because of how they visually separate each radial menu list item. :)
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: kevjon on September 19, 2017, 09:33:40 am
For example:
"Show unselected object in as transparent" is too long winded for a radial menu so it would be good to be able to change it to "Transparent Unselected"

If you have the idea of which tool name should be changed to what name. Just give me a list so I can change them internally.

I'm reluctant to do that as it may muck up other users who are used to it being the way it is now. But if I could customise the wording on my radial menus without affecting the wording that is in tool search that would be really helpful in making clean, net easy to read custom radial menus.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: kevjon on September 19, 2017, 09:41:50 am
What would be good is if you customise the name on each radial menu.

Renaming of tool names are now done via the "Tool Search" window. Open "Tool Search", search/find the tool, RMB it, select "Create User Tool Text".

Radial menu size/text size can be changed in "Edit > Preference > "General" >> "Radial Menu Font scale" >> "Radial Menu Scale"

I'd prefer to leave the tool search unmodified but still be able to have a different name on the radial menu that is shorter, easier to read and customised to the way I think about functions in Nvil.

I haven't found font scale to be particularly useful. Reason being is that value less than 1 are hard for me to read. Value larger than 1 don't fit within the radial menu box (especially for the functions that have long names and run over two lines of the radial menu)
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: IStonia on September 19, 2017, 12:24:06 pm
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Sep-20-17.rar

  * Edit > Preference > General > Radial menu item gap.
  * Edit > Preference > Colors > Radial Menu Colors > Font.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: kevjon on September 19, 2017, 12:42:47 pm
That works really nice, thanks a lot !

Can we get rid of the border that surrounds the radial menu item that was last used ?

It kind of ruins the neat clean look of the radials menus.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: IStonia on September 20, 2017, 03:14:33 pm
It is done.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: kevjon on September 21, 2017, 08:41:50 am
Thanks, that looks much better !
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: rubberDuck on September 23, 2017, 03:13:59 pm
IStonia, I have noticed that you have changed how the last used tool is displayed in the radial menu. The problem is that in my mockup this triangle was supposed to indicate that the current item is a submenu containing a different radial menu. Having a triangle (which actually symbolizes an arrow) doesn't make much sense, at least to me, when it's used to indicate last tool.
I was quite puzzled when I first saw this. :)
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: steve on September 23, 2017, 05:47:44 pm
I find that the "Radial menu item gap" is reverting to default setting of "1" after restarting Nvil.
Anyone else seeing that?
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: kevjon on September 23, 2017, 07:52:54 pm
I find that the "Radial menu item gap" is reverting to default setting of "1" after restarting Nvil.
Anyone else seeing that?

Not experiencing this problem for Sept 24 version.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: steve on September 23, 2017, 08:34:58 pm
On my setup (win7-64), Nvil does change setting for "Radial menu item gap" and, on exit, stores that setting in "PreferenceSettings.xml >> <RadialMenuItemGap>size</RadialMenuItemGap>", but over-rides that setting on restart, and reverts back to default "1"

Checked with new default config.



Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: rubberDuck on September 23, 2017, 08:53:32 pm
On my setup (win7-64), Nvil does change setting for "Radial menu item gap" and, on exit, stores that setting in "PreferenceSettings.xml >> <RadialMenuItemGap>size</RadialMenuItemGap>", but over-rides that setting on restart, and reverts back to default "1"

Checked with new default config.
Confirmed. The setting reverts to 1 after restart.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: IStonia on September 24, 2017, 12:05:13 pm
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Sep-25-17.rar
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: mkdm on September 25, 2017, 08:33:10 am
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Sep-25-17.rar

Hi Istonia.

Thanks for the recent updates!

I don't know if I'm doing mistakes but maybe something is broken.

The problem is that now I can't see any vertices displayed in Orthographic views.
Only in Perspective view they are visible.


Please check this video : http://take.ms/bOinp

Bye.

Marco (mkdm)
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: IStonia on September 25, 2017, 08:40:00 am
Marco, each viewport has its own customization. To customize it, right click its view type label, Custom/Front/Left.... You will see a context menu where you can check the "Show Vertices" option.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: steve on September 25, 2017, 09:55:07 am
Radial menu Gap setting now retaining between sessions. So now OK.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Left text alignment for Radial Menu list
Post by: mkdm on September 25, 2017, 02:01:58 pm
Marco, each viewport has its own customization. To customize it, right click its view type label, Custom/Front/Left.... You will see a context menu where you can check the "Show Vertices" option.

Thanks Istonia!

I forgot that settings.

Bye.

Marco (mkdm)