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General Category => Feature Requests => Topic started by: Darcvizer on November 13, 2015, 10:02:10 pm

Title: Spline new features
Post by: Darcvizer on November 13, 2015, 10:02:10 pm
Hi IStonia
Please add a few new features spline.

few version vertex.
(https://leto6d.storage.yandex.net/rdisk/752588a8f21368034f59f11ec3d974a49a635c19efb3261016df30df77248ed6/inf/PnDlx7h1QZaGMsP0im-5fFxWm5R7Q0AWWbUU1ZckHA0OaSYAc12HbH6FE5VCaE-fdIbZus8_q3qKL7GeH7ocCg==?uid=0&filename=1.gif&disposition=inline&hash=&limit=0&content_type=image%2Fgif&tknv=v2&rtoken=b9c811b8923f833e26a9856e5be03f2f&force_default=no&ycrid=na-2d58dc5e83cb86ab5c9e2f36997ca812-downloader5e)


selection of sub-objects & edit their.

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Create poly geometry in spline: loft, extrude and save transform history.

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i afore asked edit edges from spline.
I never got to understand how to do it.
this I still ask, view attention to it

http://www.scriptspot.com/3ds-max/scripts/spline-ffd


Sorry, reload pictures
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: IStonia on November 14, 2015, 08:05:48 am
Hi IStonia
Please add a few new features spline.

few version vertex.
https://yadi.sk/i/VZYn2E21kSmaP

selection of sub-objects & edit their.

https://yadi.sk/i/ncp2_KpPkSmaT

Create poly geometry in spline: loft, extrude and save transform history.

https://yadi.sk/i/CkJ7Q2oRkSmac

I don't understand any words in these links and don't know where to get the information you provided.
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: kevjon on November 14, 2015, 09:45:31 pm
Hi IStonia

Create poly geometry in spline: loft, extrude and save transform history.


You can already do this in Nvil. However it does not update as you tweak the vertices of the spline. In addition to SoftImage, DAZ Hexagon also has that ability, its a really useful feature.
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: kevjon on November 14, 2015, 10:06:59 pm
Istonia

These are all really good requests from Darcvizer and + 1 from me. I like using splines to model stuff also.

1.
In the first example he is asking for bezier handles to be added to splines. Bezier handles allow you to control the shape of the spline. They are standard in all 2D vector drawing packages such as Illustrator, Inkscape, DrawPlus, Xara etc. Nearly all 3d programs also have them with their spline objects. Nvil does not, making it difficult to control the profile/shape of the spline.
This should help understand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1qGQVXW3Ns (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1qGQVXW3Ns)

2.
Image is not attached so I don't know what this means "selection of sub-objects & edit their"

Updated: More info provided further down the thread
He wants to be able to select the sub part of a spline between two vertices (or the edge) so it can be manipulated with the normal transform tools.

3.
In the third example he is asking for history to be added to loft. So you create the splines that border the loft, then use loft to create the mesh. That part is already in Nvil. What is missing is that once the mesh is created he would like the ability to tweak the vertices of the spline and have the mesh update.

Also if you decide to do some work on splines, don't forget this request
I still really like to have this option with splines
http://voidworld.cmcproductions.co.uk/index.php/topic,2737.0.html (http://voidworld.cmcproductions.co.uk/index.php/topic,2737.0.html)
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: Darcvizer on November 14, 2015, 10:10:25 pm
2

http://screencast.com/t/hQ1sy54BN
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: kevjon on November 14, 2015, 10:14:12 pm
Darcvizer

You want the ability to lock vertices of the spline ?
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: Darcvizer on November 14, 2015, 10:16:20 pm
IStonia

I find it hard to convince you to these options, because I do not know english, but if you're interested I can ask friends to translate my request details
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: Darcvizer on November 14, 2015, 10:18:30 pm
Darcvizer

You want to the ability to lock vertices of the spline ?

No, select vertex spline, spline edge (between points) and subspline
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: kevjon on November 14, 2015, 10:23:50 pm
Ok, you want to select the sub part of the spline between two vertices so its shape can be moved, rotated and scaled.
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: Darcvizer on November 14, 2015, 10:33:10 pm
Yes of course!
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: kevjon on November 14, 2015, 10:49:05 pm
Understood !
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: IStonia on November 21, 2015, 08:34:45 am
i afore asked edit edges from spline.
I never got to understand how to do it.
this I still ask, view attention to it

http://www.scriptspot.com/3ds-max/scripts/spline-ffd

Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Nov-20-15.rar

  * Vertex Spline Modify tool is improved. Aixs Line no longer needs to be a two point straignt line. It can be a curve line. "Auto Align Start Position" option is added. For detail, see Help > Contents > Modeling > Vertex Section > Mesh Vertex > Spline Modify > Note > Auto Align Start Position.
  * A new streamline tool, Subobject Modify Spline Picker. Move cursor over the spline to highlight it. LMB click to link the current subobject selection to the spline. If the spline's shape is changed, the linked subobjects will be transformed accordingly. RMB click to delink the spline from any modify setup.
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: IStonia on December 01, 2015, 08:28:50 am
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Nov-30-15.rar

* A new mesh creation tool, Geometry > Create > Loft. For detail, see Help > Contents > Modeling > Vertex Section > Spline Vertex > Spline Loft.

Darvizer, have you tried this basic streamline tool, Spline Chamfer?
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: Darcvizer on December 01, 2015, 04:17:38 pm
Sorry, not yet tried it, there is no time
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: mogul on December 03, 2015, 06:09:53 am
Try this
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Nov-30-15.rar

* A new mesh creation tool, Geometry > Create > Loft. For detail, see Help > Contents > Modeling > Vertex Section > Spline Vertex > Spline Loft.

Darvizer, have you tried this basic streamline tool, Spline Chamfer?

i test it istonia. in other software maya or xsi loft should be able to work more than two spline
http://sendvid.com/4ej33jyf
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: kevjon on December 03, 2015, 08:03:38 am
i test it istonia. in other software maya or xsi loft should be able to work more than two spline

+1 for having the spline loft tool work on more that 2 splines would be great.

Nvils loft tool is also patch tool (4 sided).

Really nice work Istonia on being able to edit the splines of the loft before committing it. It works really well on my initial tests for both 2 spline lofts and 4 spline lofts.
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: IStonia on December 08, 2015, 09:09:40 am
The loft tool is improved so it can work on multiple splines. for detail, please read the doc in the help file.
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Dec-08-15.rar
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: kevjon on December 08, 2015, 10:30:01 am
The loft tool is improved so it can work on multiple splines. for detail, please read the doc in the help file.
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Dec-08-15.rar

Awesome !

It works really well, being able to edit the verts of the splines and watch the mesh update is fantastic too.

One thing that is a problem is that when I hit the 'E' button next to apply the loft dialog disappears and then I have to bring it up again later to apply the mesh.
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: kevjon on December 08, 2015, 10:43:00 am
Istonia

I also get exception error when trying to create a new loft from a spline that was part of previous loft.

The previous loft had been applied.
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: mogul on December 08, 2015, 11:15:33 am
kevjon, if you dont mind can you elaborate how this multiple spline loft work? because i still got same problem like my previous video.
http://sendvid.com/4ej33jyf

heres what i do
1. create circle spline
2. duplicate spline (total 3)
3. select all 3 spline
4. to vertex and loft and didnt work
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: kevjon on December 08, 2015, 08:36:32 pm
Don't select any splines
Run loft command (Geometry>Create>Loft)
Hold P key and select splines in order
Use segments A & B to adjust mesh density

Istonia has updated the help file with this information.
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: IStonia on December 09, 2015, 09:34:46 am
Istonia

I also get exception error when trying to create a new loft from a spline that was part of previous loft.

The previous loft had been applied.

Please check if it is fixed.
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Dec-09-15.rar
Title: Re: Spline new features
Post by: kevjon on December 09, 2015, 10:06:44 am

Please check if it is fixed.
http://www.digitalfossils.com/Download/NVil-Dec-09-15.rar

Working like a charm now, thanks !

I'll be using the loft spline tool a lot in my work, so appreciate you doing the work on it.